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So you study Catholic men and repeat what they have taught? You don't! You repeat what Protestant men teach sooooo it's not a lie kiddo.

Ah, I now see your line of thinking. Very witty! :rolleyes: I don't understand why you had to be so condescending with your last statement. I suspect that is just part of your character!

I thought the Libertarians were always right?

OK...I don't have it right!! But you are not going to tell me were I got it wrong? I am trying to have a discussion with you. You have rejected me. Let the record show that YOU ended this discussion even though in post #459 you asked me: You certainly do not want any open two-way discussion...

Well, actually amadeus, I just asked you a question based on your own admittance and your own words. If my question is "nit picking" and causes you to dodge my question and not give an answer to my legitimate question.... then so be it. You are the one that said some "are following the wrong...

And asking a question to answer a question is NOT conducive to an open two-way discussion. But, I will play your game! :rolleyes: The answer to your question: Must we do what Scripture tells us to do? Is confession in Scripture? Mary

Lol...Yes, I do want an open two-way discussion. That is why I don't do like you do; Answer questions with a question. THAT is not conducive to and open discussion.

Thanks Ronald. Logically and according to Scripture we "must conform on salvific issues". Right? Isn't that what Jesus and the Apostles taught? :)If we didn't conform to the teachings of the Apostles we won't be saved. Jesus said this about the Apostles: He that heareth you heareth me; and he...

Time for a bible lesson Taken. :rolleyes: As you know (or actually probably don't know) Timothy and Titus are pastoral letters. That means those instructions (Scripture is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness) are for pastors. For you see when Protestant men...

My prediction came true, I knew you wouldn't.;) Thank you....I am always right. Keeping it real....Mary

Give the evidence (cut and paste) that I have changed what you said! If you can't (which I know you won't) then please stop blaming me for your confusion. Keeping it real, real....Mary

Previously you stated that some "are following the wrong head and are wrong". You then admitted, "That would certainly include me". So is it possible that this is one of those times that you are following the wrong head and you are wrong about The Church NOT continuing the succession of the...

Thank you Amadeus. I think I understand what you are saying but please correct me if I am wrong: We agree that Jesus chose 12 men to continue to teach the Truth AFTER he left this earth. We agree that those 12 men were filled with and were directed by the Holy Spirit into this Truth AND...

You have spoken (written) many words here. I have not spoken for you at all. I just repeat what you say, deflate it with logic and Scripture, and then you bloviate. Keeping it real....Mary

Oh...I don't understand? Really? Nothing you wrote addresses my allegation that you and Taken have this feeling in your heart and this voice in your head that make you believe you are being guided by the Holy Spirit into the truth even though both of you disagree with each other. So please do...

Nice dodge amadeus.....A question is not an answer. ;) Scripture makes it clear that Jesus established a Church. Scripture makes it clear that The Church has authority and has elected leaders who do not teach a false doctrine. What Church authority that has elected leaders do you recognize...

That is a true statement. A bit of a dodge on your part so I will try again. Scripture makes it clear that God sent his son Jesus to tell us what to do. Jesus chose 12 men to carry on that mission and direct us into the Truth and what to do! Those men then chose 12 men to carry on the mission...

I have answered kiddo.....In post #419. But you came up with ANOTHER dodge in post #426....as expected. ;)

Ummm....I literally just told you but I will cut and paste it for you to read again: I am attempting to nudge you to see how illogical your belief is that The Church should not have oneness with unity or conformity of thought! For The Church to be ONE it must have CONFORMITY of thought on KEY...

I apologize. I didn't know you were being serious. I thought you and I had already been 'down this road'.....but I digress. Just a quick refresher: I asked you if you could give me a false doctrine of The Church that is taught using tradition only. Your answer was Sunday Sacredness. First...