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So David sinned only twice? Proof? When he said 'Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;' was he lying? His corrections do not make us grow weird or far from Him actually Then they are sons. Then they still need correction Our soul does not die once saved, and...

Correct if you do not get chastened as all sons do you are not family. So you think the disobedient do not get correction only those who are pure and sinless. Got it. So now all who He needs to correct are bastards? That makes no sense. We are talking about sons trespassing. Not enemies of...

What is a pure born son as opposed to a saved sinner? Did you think some were born pure? I suspect you use the phrase to refer to saved people who are born again. If so, then they are sons and every son gets chastened. Not for pureness. You ignore that all sons are chastened like David was. For...

Which time!? The time he lusted or the time he called for a census? You confuse English itself. No. Ps 19: .. the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether. 10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. 11...

Except God compares it precisely to that. Heb 12:5 And you have forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons: “My son, do not take lightly the discipline of the Lord, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you. 6For the Lord disciplines the one He loves, and He chastises every son He...

2 Samuel 24 shows David sinned and God gave him his choice of corrections/chastisements. How come every other single person alive now or in history was chastised as a son when they came to Him? You thought you were some sinless exception? Temptation is not the sin, even Jesus was tempted and...

Explain why a parent corrects their child? It is because the child did something wrong and needs correction. If it is serious, even chastisement. That is precisely what is in the bible. You thought He corrected EVERY one that came to Him for kicks?? In other words the saved. The saved already...

What you are is barely literate in English I guess. Yes there are and they trespass and are corrected by God. Are you suggesting that He does not chasten you??? Hebrews 12:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening...

No idea what you are talking about. Temptation is like birds flying over your head. Just don't let them nest in your hair. You twist words dishonestly. Yet again, as is now expected. Work on that mr perfect Washes away sin. Your idea that we don't need correction after coming to Jesus is...

The bible says He corrects every one that comes to Him. Don't pretend it was my idea. Such delusion and deception is not a mark of perfection.

People who think that God has nothing to correct them for can think whatever they like, they are wrong. Time to come down off your high horse mr perfect and admit what you are.

His strength is made perfect in our weakness. His sacrifice is what saved us. Not works. God only looks at the blood of Jesus and if we have that we are good. Like in Egypt the blood was on the door. The angel never took a long quiz checklist for each person's deeds in the house to pass over...

Jesus said there would be trespasses from brothers and that He chastened all people who come to Him. If you need no correction or chastening and never trespass, where does that leave you? How would you know? Not like you are a sinner! :) But Jesus did not say brethren scheduled trespasses only...

Romans 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? Nothing 'blind' about that verse. People that think they have arrived at perfection are wretched. Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and...

I think even people in the old testament were save by believing He would come one day actually. You can't even hit the dartboard, let alone get a bullseye. Part of that hope is that He lives with us here on earth, and chastens and guides us. Jesus makes us perfect. Not work of the flesh...

Well, you can call a manure pile a gem if you like. However, the bible is full of it's heros sinning and trespassing and falling and learning to do better. Did David get unsaved when he numbered Israel against God's will, and lusted after another man's wife? No. He got judged and punished...

Say what? Did the child Jesus say, like Paul, 'O wretched man that I am'? Lie. To be saved we need to repent. Your claims of perfection after repenting are made up. The righteousness of God is Jesus! He helps us be like Him. That requires judgments and chastening etc. People did not walk out...

No it makes it something Jesus pointed out. We are to forgive...and if people were perfect there would be no need. Perfect people sin??? Why would anyone ever need to forgive a perfect sinless saint?? Of course He did not ask us to sin. He pointed out that we would still need forgiveness for...

So when Jesus told His disciples to not let their heart be troubled, you think they were not saved?? Did you take that to mean that if someone like Martha was impatient (Jesus took so long to get to Lazarus's grave) they were not saved?? Did you think that meant that when they first started...

No, that was Paul talking and still very much alive and on planet earth. Once saved we have repented. Our eternal life does not then hinge on whether we glance at a chic before catching ourselves etc The only manner that matters is if Jesus is in us and we accepted Him. Rather than strain at...