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Interesting Choir Loft...I had posted thoughts along the same line back in post 16.

The Jewish Sephirot teaches 4 Heavens.... 1: Earth. 2: Lower angels (both good and bad) and demons. 3: Abode of Messiah and His Heavenly Temple. 4: Abode of Yahweh. I'm sure that Retrobyter is aware of this.

Yes the righteous were saved just as it will be at the second coming...

The key to Mark 9:23...."If you are able". Sure leaves a question if everyone is able doesn't it?

and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain. (Rev 13:8 ESV) Maybe strong delusion is nothing more than they are not granted the ability to discern the real truth; God...

I've always thoughts this to be a good study on the subject of the body, soul and spirit... http://faithhopelove.net/FundamentalsofSpiritualUnderstandingMaster.pdf

The scriptures describe the age of the millennium when Yeshua Messiah will rule and there are still physical beings in this world; the spiritual kingdom will come in the next age when Yeshua turns all things to Father Yahweh, once death is eliminated (1Con 15). Then all things will be made new...

Do the events spoken on in these scriptures speak of a Heavenly Kingdom or a Earthly Kingdom? ZECHARIAH 8:2 "Thus says the LORD of hosts: 'I am zealous for Zion with great zeal; with great fervor I am zealous for her.' 3 Thus says the LORD: 'I will return to Zion, and dwell in the midst of...

Cooter, Guestman…I can understand both of your arguments and think that your general line of reasoning is sound however I cannot say that either argument is correct, we just don’t know. I do however suspect that whatever the restrainer is, it has been taken away and the son of destruction...

Just a quick thought; every nation has a angelic overlord, refer to Deu 32:8 and this fact is evident in Dan 10. So assuming this nation has that angelic guidance, what has occurred when the power of the United States was withdrawn from the Middle East? You have seen the rapid materialization...

Angellina if you don't believe in the two houses of Israel what is Eze 37 all about? Saying, And you, son of man, take one stick to yourself and write on it, For Judah, and for his companions, the sons of Israel. And take another stick and write on it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and all...

Regarding the Greek word Ethnos; in the New Testament the word ETHNOS occurs 164 times, while the word HELLEN is used but 27 times. The Greek word “ETHNOS” means simply “nation,” nothing more - nothing less. It has no pagan, or non-Israel, or even non-Greek connotation. Yet in spite of its...

All the hope in the world...you're saved :) Do you think that there are any saved in this age whose name is not written in the Lambs Book of Life?

I just want to make a point in an area where confusion about wording might exist. Once again the word in question is “Gentiles”. I again want to quote what I had posted earlier: Young’s translation uses the word goyim correctly; it is translated as “nations” I say, then, Did they stumble...

I welcome your thinking out loud Jacob and I think it worth while to stop and consider your message; it is somewhat out of the ordinary to me so I have no real observation at this time, but I will consider it. I will say, while I'm not able to see the completeness of your reflection somehow it...

Well Jacob I think Ezekiel pretty much tells us the outcome and I think it is summed up in 37:20-28 (Ezekiel) 37:20-28 And the sticks shall be in your hand, the ones on which you write before their eyes. And say to them, 'So says HaShem: Behold, I will take the sons of Israel from among the...

Jacob you’re going to have to be a little more detailed regarding your thoughts; I’m a little confused on exactly what you are expressing. You’ll have to forgive me, I’m a little slow at times.

I see the two comings; Yeshua came in accord to the spring feast and will return in conjunction with the fall feasts. I do not see two Messiahs, only one.

Is this where you are coming from Jacob... Jewish tradition alludes to two redeemers, both called Mashiach and are involved in ushering in the Messianic age. They are called Mashiach ben David and Mashiach ben Joseph.

Deep thinking Jacob…something I need to think about. My initial reaction is Benjamin and Levi have become integrated with Judah the same as the other nine tribes have become joined together under Ephraim, somewhat the way when Joseph is listed in Rev 7, Ephraim is not listed but included it...