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Babylon is likely Mecca! The blood of the saints and martyrs are mostly all future as Islam beheads saints that will not accept Allah as god; of course they become martyrs because of this action of faith. As far as kings of the earth committing immorality with her, let me ask do the leaders of...

The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction. And the dwellers on earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world will marvel to see the beast, because it was and is not and is to come...

On this we agree; Daniel pretty well confirms this fact. In Yeshua Messiah, Bob

Babylon will represent the same general area and people that it has always entailed; it is the Assyrian region. It has nothing to do with the United States! In Yeshua Messiah, Bob

Actually the intent of the antichrist is the denial that Yeshua is the Son of Yahweh but only a prophet of Yahweh. They (Islam) produce a false Messiah whom they claim is not the true Son but only a prophet. On the wall of the Dome of the Rock is written "Heavens forbid that God could have a...

The second beast of chapter 13 is the beast that comes from the bottomless pit of chapter 9:11 who is the king of the angels from the pit. This Apollyon in the same who kills the two wittiness in chapter 11:7. Apollyon is a spirit man whom I think is the Madih that Islam said disappeared into...

Every kingdom that has ever existed or that will exist in the future has a leader; there will be a central figure in charge so get real already :rolleyes: In Yeshua Messiah, Bob

To answer your question JosyWales; I think Revelation likely covers that time period from the first advent of Yeshua to the second and what follows thereafter. Have you ever really read Isaiah, in particular the first 10 chapters and attempted to discern the timing of the events described...

Yes I agree with this; I have for some time now! In Yeshua Messiah, Bob People are looking for something that has already occured!

The sons of Yahweh and the hosts of Heaven are all the same thing; they are the created angels of Yahweh. I’ll not embellish on the following scriptures because I think they speak for themselves. Job 1:6-7 ESV Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the...

The only group of people that Yahweh talks about marring in the scripture is the Lost House of Israel when He brings them back into a covenant relationship in the finial days! Hos 2:16-20 ESV "And in that day, declares the LORD, you will call me 'My Husband,' and no longer will you call me 'My...

No he is just being ignorant or allowing himself to be deluded in a very serious way! In Yeshua Messiah, Bob

I’m not here to argue the point but I did present the possibility and made the statement that there is evidence to support it. As an example; Nero said before his death that he would be resurrected and many of that time claim he in fact was. Galba was the 7th emperor and his reign was for...

Ever hear of Nero (AD 54-68)? Nero was the sixth Roman Emperor; before you object emperors were also call kings; remember Caesar whom the chief priest said "we have no king but Caesar".? In Yeshua Messiah, Bob

What if Revelation was written prior to 70AD and one can present a very good argument that this is the case. Actually the only strong evidence that Revelation was written later that 70AD is provided by Irenaeus in a statement he made regarding Polycarp who supposedly seen the Apostle John after...

I agree with you Roy that the words “aion”, meaning “age” or “ages” and the word “aionios” meaning age-lasting and is not to be taken as some indefinite period of time. However the following verses indicate to me that we live in a current age which will be followed by another age “the...

You apparently read a different bible than I do shilohsfoal! In Yeshua Messiah, Bob

Josy think about what you are attempting to do; you are trying to make the preincarnate Messiah into a mortal man, that’s who is the rider of the red horse in Zec 1:8 and then you are attempting to make Him to the angel of war on the blood horse in Revelation 6. Sorry but we’ll just have to...

I agree you Veteran that they all end concurrently but I'm going to have withhold judgment about the beginning of each; I'm not sure they begin concurrently. Seems to me that the seals might have a earlier beginning but I have no actual proof. In Yeshua Messiah, Bob

Sorry to say Josy but you are losing me in you analysis; are you saying that the rider on the red horse in Zechariah 1 is a man and then you say he is the Angel of the LORD; what are you saying, which one is he? The rider on the horse in Zechariah is the Angel of the LORD, the captain of the...