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In the New Testiment there's a "mortify" (Col. 3:5), a "put off" (Col 3:8) BEFORE a "put on" (Col. 3:10). This is all so that we can grow!!! Hosea says: (10:12) Sow righteousness for yourselves, reap the fruit of unfailing love, and break up your unplowed ground; for it is time to...

(I haven't caught up yet), but yes, the concept of growth is all over the Bible, however, don't exclude this concept: Jeremiah 1:10 King James Version (KJV) See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to...

Hi Lizbeth....no, I haven't had time to keep up the the thread....I have to read the pages between my posts.

Are you saying that Jesus didn't walk in the Spirit??? What isn't found in other books?? The testimony of people walking in the Spirit is found in the New Testament as well as in other books written by or about the people who have this testimony. I agree with this! But, doesn't this...

I don't understand how you can say that man is a liar? Please clarify.

You asked me: and when I saw believe and baptized my mind went to Mark 16:17 "and these signs shall follow them that believe..." according to this verse, although I am baptized (water) and I "believe"....I guess I don't believe enough (Lord, help my unbelief) because in reality, these signs are...

Actually in my Bible it's in red letters...which means Jesus spoke them. And Jesus is the way the truth and the life, right??

Mark 16: 16-18: 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any...

This is where I am stuck, what I can relate to: Romans 7:21-24 21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into...

I guess what I would have to say is, faith....I lack faith....and sadly, there's no excuse for it!!

The first thing I'd like to address is this: "Said an old professor of over eighty years, in a certain holiness meeting; "I believe in holiness; but I don't think it is all got at once, as you people say. I believe we grow into it." This is a very common mistake, second only to that which makes...

Chapter 2 continued: "But," said a man to me, as I urged him to seek holiness at once, "I got this when i was converted. God didn’t do a half work with me when He saved me. He did a thorough job." “True, God did a thorough work, brother. When He converted you, He forgave all your sins, every...

Ok, I'm back...sorry, family circumstances came first. So, I'm reading "Helps to Holiness" by Brengle and I'd like to discuss chapter 2....so I posted it if anyone is interested. (It is available on the internet as a pdf file) There are some things in it that I wish to discuss but to post just...

Who said testimonies trump scripture?? When you line yourself up with scripture, God blesses you!! And this is testimony of lining up with God's word!!

I respectfully disagree with you, as I have read many testimonies of people who experienced life-changing "second" blessings (maybe it's the name "second blessing" that you don't agree with, that it's all one BIGGGGGGG blessing). To agree with you would mean that these people didn't have the...

I guess this is where we differ. I don't find Brengle's writing complicated at all...petty straight forward actually. And ..... “This is the will of God, even your sanctification. . . . For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness,” and “Without holiness, no man can see the...

So, this is another book by Brengle that I picked up yesterday. It is available on the net as a pdf file if you are interested. I think and hope we can all agree with the first page of chapter One that I will add here. (I added some bold to it.) "Helps to Holiness by S. L. Brengle...

Hi Lizbeth, no I haven't lost interest....I'm just a busy woman that is not able to spend all sorts of time here, I have other responsibilities. However, I did catch up last night....(bedtime reading), which inspired me to do more researching, which I intend to share on Monday....maybe tomorrow...

Here's the first page of Chapter 5: "The Outcome of a Clean Heart. David prayed, ‘‘Create within me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me. Restore unto me the joy of Thy salvation, and uphold me with Thy free Spirit. Then will I teach transgressors Thy ways, and sinners...

Have you ever read Jessie Penn Lewis' autobiography? Called, "The Leading of the Lord: A Spiritual Autobiography"? Ask, seek, knock shouldn't be a one time occurrence. Remember, Jesus after healing the 10 lepers and only 1 came back to thank Him asked about the other 9. I believe He wants us to...