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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The physical bodies 'of' the Saints appearing the the city are not 144,000 but as a sign pointing to the true 144,000 of all Saints (and their souls). Not 144,000 literal men as you believe. Nothing to do with Nero or 70AD. Remember this miracle already took place in 33AD. The chosen...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No. The Earthly Jersualem was not holy at the time when the veil was torn. Nevertheless, it was still called the Holy City (Matthew 4:5). Even as it is to this day. And for GOD'S PURPOSE, it was called that here. Since Jerusalem is "called" the Holy City. The building is "called" the Holy...
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    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    Your statement shows that you are not a biblical student because you have failed to quote Scripture to support your nonsense. Just personal rants and speculations. I will put you on the ignore list and pray that God will open your eyes as you are spiritually blind just like the Jews and the...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    First tell me what was the first death before the first resurrection?
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Now why would there be a resurrection of only "a few" Old Covenant believers? If this was a Resurrection of the Old Testament saints, then ALL of them had to be resurrected, not just a few. Obviously, this is absolutely not the Resurrection of Old Covenant saints. Its merely a miraculous SIGN or...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    And some people will ask me, "Why bodies?" I think we know "why bodies" came out of the grave and went into the Holy City, since it was a spiritual picture or figure of the resurrection. Not the actual resurrection, as that would mean all the Old Covenant saints would have been raised up...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Time out! You need to read the verses carefully and understand what was really going on. It is not what you claim that the grave opened at the Cross (Death of Christ). The "body of saints appeared unto many", just as the word of God reports. But this miracle performed by God, like every...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Yep, they are. The first fruits are those who experienced the first resurrection which is what being BORN AGAIN is about! Rev 20:4-6 (4) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    All believers in Christ are the firstfruits, duh! They are what 144,000 symbolically represented! Israelite harvest?! What a typical Preterism nonsense. That is your speculation. Not what the Word of God said. They are, I have proved Scripture posted above which you obviously did not read...
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    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    If you can refute my position biblically and honestly. So far you have not Sigh... God did NOT make everlasting promises to the "ethnic people" of Israel. He made it with "His People", congregation Israel -- including all people in Christ from the Old Testament and the New Testament...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No. The 144,000 is NOT a "head count" that we need to apply to 144,000 men. The numbers like 2, 3, 4, 7, 10, 12, 24, 1,000, 1,260, 1,290, 1,335, etc. in the symbolic book of Revelation have spiritual signification that takes spiritual discernment to understand what God is talking about here...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Number Two: I believe the number twenty-four refers us back to the number designated as the Priests of Israel, as assigned under inspiration of God by Aaron. 1st Chronicles 24:18-19 "The three and twentieth to Delaiah, the four and twentieth to Maaziah. These were the orderings of them in...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    For those with carnal mind, of course, its impossible because they do not receive the love of the truth. Ahh now you have brought up 24 elders so I think its time for me to explain who they really are if anyone have spiritual ears: The word translated "elder" in the Old Testament is [zaqen]...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Believe it or not, the great multitude is the remnant out of congregation of Israel since Abel. The great multitude is indeed very many, but the rest of the congregation are many more professed believers without wedding garments (being born again in Christ) who will end up in the Lake of Fire...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Actually, they/we as True Christians witness against everything in the church that is contrary to the Gospel - something they hate to hear because it torments them who believe the doctrines of the devils (lying signs and wonders). It is the battle between the Word of God coming out of the...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Speculated and false imagination of man. The Word of God does not teach this. The 144,000 were not literal men who were protected so they could be raptured into heaven in 70AD. Nonsense.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Two Witnesses = 144,000 = Great Multitude. They all symbolically the Elect in Christ who have received power to preach the Gospel to the world since the Cross. They are chosen Christiansa. The "people, kindreds, tongues, and nations" represent the enemies who do not like to hear the Gospel...
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    What triggers Armageddon ?

    No, you don't get it. I was just mocking your literal understanding on how will a physical river hold spiritual angels. Nothing to do with understanding English, silly! It is spiritual discernment that you lack! So, now can you explain what the River Euphrates in Revelation 9:14 and 16:12...
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    What triggers Armageddon ?

    I just proved you wrong that you can't have a Godzilla in Revelation 13 coming out of the Mediterranean Sea to replace three human kings, or a woman floating above the moon and with sun for clothing and stars for crown to mean literal. You need to show us how do you understand Revelation 12 and...