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Deborah, I appreciate your posts and your thoughtful responses. I think we both have a good and respectful understanding of each others ideas...and yes, perhaps they are both shaped somewhat by our experiences. Yet I do think mine are also informed by the definitions of Scripture. I agree...

Hey justaname, Thanks for your response. Yes, I have many Scriptures that support my claim. First, let me address your passages: I want to quote the entire context of 1 Cor. 2 and the beginning of 1 Cor. 3. I will color code the pronouns so you can follow the flow of what Paul is saying. I...

I think the Scriptures do provide very specific descriptions of what a prophet is and how that prophet receives information from God (and how they do not!). Below is a fairly extensive, but not comprehensive, list of verses pertaining to this subject. Notice that in almost every one of these...

Michael, no one is slinging any mud or throwing any stones. Deborah and I are having a very cordial discussion. I hope one day you can learn that a brother or sister in Christ can disagree with you and not be evil. Christians can disagree and still love each other. In fact, that is what is...

Deborah, Thanks for your reply. Yes, maybe it is that we just have differing definitions of this gift. However, I do think that definitions matter. When someone says, "I am a prophet" then I think people naturally think of people like Moses, Samuel, Elijah, Elisha, Jeremiah, John the...

First, that is not what partial depravity teaches. The fact is, everyone who is confronted with the Gospel recognizes its truth and is forced to accept or reject it. Jesus' anger toward the Pharisees was not that they couldn't recognize the truth, but that they did see it and rejected it...

I appreciate your reply, Deborah. I understand your position. I do appreciate the fact that there seems to be a "testing" process in the particular church where you belong. I have no doubt that my views may be somewhat impacted by the terrible abuses I have seen in this arena. Most...

Thank you Deborah. I guess my question is, "How does that differ from a teacher, evangelist, or even just a kind person in general?" If I go to comfort a person in the hospital, does that make me a prophet because I am speaking words of comfort? I am not trying to come across as critical, I...

Oz, You don't oppose the P? The entire concept of "once saved always saved" was developed as the fruit of the Calvinistic system. Personally, it seems to me that if the root of the acronym is flawed, why keep the fruit? Maybe this is a different discussion. Feel free to start a new thread...

Thanks for your reply, Deborah. Im curious, what is your definition of a NT prophet and on what basis do you establish it?

Michael, I simply stated why I didn't believe prophets exist and what their function was in the early church. I used Scripture to support my position and I believe I shared my views in a kind manner. It does seem evident, does it not, that gifts do not function the same way today? Are you...

Yes, Paul was there for a long time. I was trying to illustrate the scenario using an extreme to help you understand the situation of many NT churches and how prophecy was used to "strengthen, encourage and comfort." Groups of believers had no NT, no eyewitnesses and no Apostles there to...

No, that is not my argument. That is a common Calvanistic misrepresentation. Accepting grace does not make a person "better' or less sinful than another person. We are all completely condemned and utterly sinful. If two men are condemned for their wicked acts and stand before the jury to be...

Deborah, I think if you take a moment to imagine a small church hundreds of miles separated from Paul that he started after a couple day visit...with no Bibles, no scrolls, no eyewitnesses or even other people who had heard stories about Jesus...I think it becomes easier to understand how NT...

justaname, Yes, I am sure we will spend time together at least on that side of eternity, no doubt. I look forward to that day. I agree with you that many have hardened hearts. They are proud, arrogant and they rebel against grace and the call to humility and repentance. Pharaoh saw God's...

Ugh, I wrote a long reply but it disappeared :(. Ill try again at a later time. :)

You are wasting your time. mjhealth doesn't even believe Scripture is God's word.

Just to respond a little to the comments about the NT prophets... Yes, there were NT prophets. However, these people testified about Jesus to those who had not heard and had no Scriptures to inform them. They learned via direct revelation. God used prophets in the NT to declare the message...

justaname, I agree with you, that even if Calvinistic tenets are correct, that God could not be labeled "unfair." Certainly God is Almighty and can do whatever He wants. He owes man nothing and all have sinned and deserve wrath. If He were to choose some and condemn the rest, He would be...

Jun2u, I am sorry you are taking this discussion so personally. I am simply sharing my views on the Scriptures and I assure you, they are based on a genuine desire to honor God and stay true to His Word, not arrogance. I hope you can provide toward me the same respect I am giving you. I know...