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Prewrath is not something I’ve studied much of, I confess…but…how can you have a single return of Christ unless the wrath is poured out at the very end? Most ‘prewrathers’ I’ve come across have the wrath being poured out at differing points in the tribulation, but not right at the end…as that...

I agree, the Rapture and the second coming are the same event.

Okay….we need a forehead slap emoji. “Apocalyptic genre” is not a “doctrine”. It’s a genre. Hence…”genre”. So….if someone told you to read Psalms as a general poetry genre….would you scowl at them and tell them that “poetry is a doctrine of man and not in Gods word!” A genre is just a style or...

You’re correct in saying that Revelation 20 only mentions the dead. However, that is not the only place that mentions the resurrection of the dead, or the resurrection of people already dead with those who are still alive. Let’s look at the passages that do and see what we can deduce from them...

You mistake me. I’m not asking for you to “reveal spiritual truths that neither the human eye can see, nor the human mind can comprehend”. Indeed, it would be most difficult for the ‘human mind and human eye’ to be capable of seeing that which it cannot. Luckily, that’s not what Paul or God...

You say it’s “laughable” that an angel would be able to restrain the Man of Sin. Why? He is just a man. Even one who, at some point, may have certain powers given to him by Satan. In scripture we have plenty of ideas of conflict between spiritual beings. The primary one would be in Daniel...

If I may comment on this thought? I believe there is a very valid question as to the timing. You base your argument on 2 Thess 2 and the Man of Sin. Let’s look at the passage. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we...

Thanks for the heads up on where you land. I’ll try and keep it in mind! Okay. Let’s try and noodle this through. In the OT accounts, Noah and Lot “knew”. Noah had enough ‘lead’ time to build an ark, so, sure. Lot…less time. He knew things were going poorly when he decided it might be better to...

No. I mean you building a lovely little straw man in order to make your own tearing of it down look impressive. I’m sorry if you don’t think apocalyptic genres are legit, or that numbers can be used symbolically, but I’m afraid that just highlights how ill-prepared you are to make comments on...

Ah! It’s so nice to see charity still exists within the church about open handed issues. Please, enlighten me, brother, how is holding a different opinion on the timing of the millennium, a sufficient grievance to warrant labelling another a false teacher, of all things? To my knowledge he is...

Indeed, let us consider them: Matthew 24:36-42 No One Knows That Day and Hour “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the...

You do understand that Amillennialism holds to an apocalyptic reading of Revelation, right? Which means that number usage within the book is symbolic, not literal. I don’t mind if you object to the system, everyone’s got their beef with something. But if you’re going to berate it, try objecting...

Ahem. I’d love to see a scripture that equates “Pre-tribuational Rapture believer” with “Christians who are waiting for him”….as you seem to be doing. No textual proof = no credibility. I don’t mind a person being passionate for their personal doctrine of choice, even if I don’t think it’s a...

Hi David. I also believe that the bible speaks of a Rapture. I also think it shows that God can, and sometimes does, protect those that are his, from his wrath. But…I think it is a mistake to assume a Pre-tribulational Rapture on this theory alone. Firstly, we see God judging Israel in the OT...

Hi! Thanks for clarifying. I thought that's what 'obedience to the gospel' would mean (that's what I'd mean when I'd say it), but I felt the need to check. I'm coming late to the conversation, obviously, but there seemed to be differences in opinion, but I couldn't, as surface level, seem to...

I don't know if that's flattering or sobering. The part of me that's "lets debate!" is probably flattered. The part of me that taps on the shoulder and goes 'psst, humility'...not so much. But still, taken in the spirit it was given, so :P It's never really a bad thing to question yourself, I...

Sorry I think in large part it’s autism brain...gotta get that point out there, you know. Then there’s the unfortunate fact that my husband is rather...hmmm. Smart. And I suppose over the years I’ve had to up my game if I EVER want to get a point across. I can happily say I do. But sometimes I...

Just a quick question of clarification, when you say “obedience”, are you referring to the act of believing? There are ample verses that speak of “belief” being the necessary action for redemption, or, reconciliation...and you yourself refer multiple times to the “believer”. I suppose my...

Lol...well, if you read my post....I’ve actually reached a point where I’m willing to be wrong about the Millennium. Not totally convinced yet that I am, but I’ve been reading and studying Daniel in some depth and...let’s just say...I have questions

That was an interesting point and made me think. However... I’m not sure we should assume that Christ, when he saw Mary, was still in his un-glorified body (please do correct me if I’m wrong and that’s not what you’re saying). The passage in John, that tells us of the meeting of Jesus and Mary...