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  1. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Two things in reference to these thoughts: while Paul did indeed know that "he who is in us, is greater than he who is in the world"...we still see Paul place the future hope of resurrection and perfection in just that...the future. For example: For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons...
  2. Naomi25

    John Darby

    I don’t doubt that perspective has an incredible difference on how one perceives both life and our growth in God. I expect that every day of our lives will (or should) be spent discovering new wonders in the Spirit: “that we may be filled with all the fullness of God” (Eph 3:19b) However, my...
  3. Naomi25

    John Darby

    So sorry it’s taken me so long to get back to you. I sort of had to drop everything else and focus on the family business. Probably still do for a while, so forgive me if I’m patchy. But yes, I do think “manifest/not yet manifested” would be just as suitable a way to state it!
  4. Naomi25

    The Pre-Tribulation Rapture: The Blessed Hope of the Saints

    I agree that the Rapture is absolutely the blessed hope, and that without a doubt scripture teaches it. However, what you claim to be “tiresome nonsense”, would seem to me to be issues you have not proven with any sort of authority to be tossing around such epithets. I, personally, would ask you...
  5. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Understand...this is ALL speculation...I have not studied this in depth, and simply put, we're not told enough to really build a solid doctrine on it, I think. However, my thought would be: man is not inherently immortal...not like God himself, who has no beginning and no end. Our longevity...
  6. Naomi25

    John Darby

    No, I think you're absolutely right. When a person has 'ears to hear' that veil is definitely removed. And those who do not have ears to hear and understand the parables remain under that veil. And, I suppose in the case of 2 Cor 3, specifically the Jews, who clung to the old covenant, not...
  7. Naomi25

    John Darby

    He said, more or less proving my point. Sir, I wish you well, but once again, I have no desire to enter into a conversation with someone who starts with the assumption that they are 'right' and the other is not merely 'mistaken', but they are, in fact, 'against Gods word'...in other words...
  8. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Well...I would say that we're not told they DIDN'T eat from the tree of life...initially: The LORD God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it. And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, but of the tree of the...
  9. Naomi25

    John Darby

    I'm afraid I don't quite understand your point here, sorry. Isn't glory, naturally, a reflection of God and therefore a gift that comes with a true understanding and therefore reflection of our life of him? In the parable of the talents, the money given to the servants (talents) was not even...
  10. Naomi25

    John Darby

    You've just contradicted yourself and proved your own point wrong. "Does Jesus still reign?...Yes". Yes. Which means when Jesus "hands over the Kingdom" the kingdom does not 'end' nor does Jesus give over his right as Lord of Lords, King of Kings. Ipso facto...Jesus reigns as King. 1 Cor 15...
  11. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Ha. Well...sure...that is, without doubt THE tree on which life was won. But I don't know that the cross, with Christ upon it, was either in the garden to begin with, or will be in the New Jerusalem when all things are made new. And...if it was...purely symbolic of 'eternal life as given or...
  12. Naomi25

    John Darby

    I won't comment more on the 'already/not yet' until you can comment on my other post, or I might get ahead of the conversation. However, I think with the two verses you've referred to here, Eph 5:13-14 and Matt 25:1-13, while the examples given both speak of 'light', they are not, strictly...
  13. Naomi25

    John Darby

    I absolutely agree that Is 25 and 2 Cor 3 are linked, and the 'veil' being referred to is likely being used in a similar manner. Is 25 promises a time when salvation will mean that such a 'covering' will be taken away. And 2 Cor 3 takes that further; Paul points to the obvious glory that shone...
  14. Naomi25

    Is it a sin for a Christian to vote for a Democrat?

    Well...I actually agree with you. I don't think Christians ought to vote for a third party simply to save their conscious. But...it's not my conscious....it's there's. They will stand before Christ and he will know if they were taking the easy way out or if they were acting as they truly felt...
  15. Naomi25

    John Darby

    That's the one...I was too lazy to look it up!
  16. Naomi25

    Is it a sin for a Christian to vote for a Democrat?

    Hi Ziggy. I think you're right...if we approached it in terms of truly wanting to know what and why our brothers and sister thought about the topic, we might get some good dialogue on the subject. I think the problem comes because people start from a point where they have already made up their...
  17. Naomi25

    John Darby

    No, I didn't "forget" them, especially after you based your mistaken view on them, I was just pointing out that the context for reading them ought to come from the passage above them. Which shouldn't be a shocking idea. And you're still avoiding the point: which is, this passage doesn't promise...
  18. Naomi25

    John Darby

    I'm sorry, but o_O How on EARTH does 1 Cor 15 mean I think Jesus being King in eternity mean death exists in eternity? Are you, perhaps, forgetting these verses: And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, nor shall the kingdom be left...
  19. Naomi25

    John Darby

    If I am following you correctly, the thing you are most struggling with is the fact that that while scripture presents many of the spiritual promises as a present reality, people keep talking like there is something more to come....(am I right?) Because, yes, absolutely we have...access to these...
  20. Naomi25

    John Darby

    Well, of course I don't "have an answer", because any answer I provide will automatically be labelled a 'doctrine of man' and therefore incorrect by you before the conversation even starts. Thereby not encouraging me to even try to provide either answer or conversation. You can say that's...