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In Romans, you have the Law of Moses, Law of sin and death, the Law of the spirit, Law of the mind, Law of righteousness, and Jesus Himself stated Matthew 5:18 (NKJV) For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all...

Yep. Probably did avoid a question or two of yours. Probably because you have avoided some of my assertions also. We will not agree. Doesn't cause me to lose one minute of sleep at night that we are not in lock step on this. You have developed your opinion over time and feel confident in it...

I knew we would eventually get to a British Israelism thing in some fashion, or some lost tribes idea. I will not play in that sand box. Using secular presupposition developed in the Middle Ages to prove a biblical point or to provide meaning to scripture, no, won't go down that rabbit trail...

It has been a good back and forth, for sure. But, discussions like this can be healthy, as long as they are done with a modicum of respect and an awareness that topics like this are side issues and not litmus tests for one's relationship with God. But like most discussions, it can get intense...

Somehow, Paul didn't get the memo.... Romans 9:1-5 (NKJV) I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit, 2 that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart. 3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren...

2 Chronicles 11:13-17 (NKJV) And from all their territories the priests and the Levites who were in all Israel took their stand with him. 14 For the Levites left their common-lands and their possessions and came to Judah and Jerusalem, for Jeroboam and his sons had rejected them from serving as...

That comes also from your not acknowledging that all the tribes were commingled during the time of Rehoboam and Josiah as expounded on in 2 Chronicles. Ezekiel wrote his prophecy while in captivity in Babylon. I think you missed it. Let's do the math you propose, using the exact same...

I never said that He will. What left field did that come out of?

Well for sure! I can concur that we not get bogged down in Ezekiel's vision of the temple, especially since I never brought it up. True, but they also recognized their unbelieving countrymen as also being Hebrews and descendants of Abraham. Paul especially so in his letter to the Romans. And...

Exactly what the OT says regarding the last days before Messiah sets up His earthly kingdom.

Not according to Ireneus and Ephraim the Syrian from their writings and sermons on the topic. Ireneus was a student of John. I posted it before, but in some folk's zeal to affirm their position they must have overlooked it. Isaiah 26, the entire chapter with specific attention verses 20-21...

Respectfully disagree. Many passages have been given to show, even from the OT, that a removal of the righteous before the calamity of the wrath of God comes upon the earth is a valid position, and one can deny the numerical prescriptions regarding Israel all they want, but they are laid out...

Would you please provide Pauline scripture references to counter the Ezekiel/Leviticus based calculations I presented. Also, Pauline scripture references that counter the events of Genesis 15:7-21 I made mention of. There was no real "interpretation" done on any of the by me. The event in...

Well, the church replacing Israel by some shows a misunderstanding of who Israel is and what the church is. Both currently and their destinies. Israel has always had an earthly application with earthly promises. The church has a spiritual application with heavenly promises. If the Church has...

Don't see any relevance there either. Especially so when taken in context. Seems, in context, the entire passage is referring to false prophets of Israel and the people of Israel. I suppose if one comes from a position that the church has replaced Israel, one might see it that way. I see no...

Nope. Not even close.

I didn't name any names, so how do you automatically assume that they are not reputable? Can you divine who it is I am referring? Keep in mind Proverbs 18:13. I never said they were all pastors or that they even have a preaching ministry. There is more to 501c3 than churches alone. They are...

Uh, yeah. I am not "essentially done" with the passage. I was never there in your position on it. Where do you see "pillows", "soft landings", "fly like birds" being condemned in this passage? Ezekiel 13:18 (NKJV) and say, “Thus says the Lord God: “Woe to the women who sew magic charms on...

I thought I stated earlier the text seemed pretty straightforward. Did you miss that? And any church or pastor that holds their 501c3 status higher than scripture, well that pretty much says it all. But there are many 501c3 Christian organizations that hold similar views. Some of those...

Fly like birds shows a perception that doesn't view that there are multiple dimensions beyond those we experience in the here and now. Both the ancient Rabbi's and modern particle physicists agree that there are 10 dimensions to reality. I have no illusion about "flying like birds". Being...