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No you want it be a forgery.. i showed you all this neat stuff you think this faker has accomplished. It is what he made it... the Catholic symbols are all over it. The water the nuns threw on it...made those identifying stains. Now you're really crazy to think God didn't cause that.

So to show you what its like in 3d I have printed it on my printer and scanned it.. it has all 3d coding. Get a set of old 3d glasses from ebay and come back and look. Its like the universe is all behind him in the background! You can see Jesus sacred heart inner chamber of a human heart. You...

I see people quoting Paul.. like he was Jesus or something. It way better to stick to Jesus.

Pearl, the blood is under the image and the image is only seen at the microscopic level on the very top fibers. Then the man in the Shroud has every documented injury that Christ had. The image has 0 distortion at the sides where you would say someone faked it.. think of wrinkles showing up...

I Just go by his words... and I don't really get involved with what anyone else has said.

God is father of everyone. There is a Queen at his R-hand.

I've studied it for 20 years and its the real thing of Jesus Christ. Whatever made the image get on as a photographic negative is way beyond man's knowledge even today. You have to stand back 10 feet just to see any image. The negative image is an inside out image. . and you can see what it was...

The Father and Son are one b.c God entered our world thru his Queen in Psalms 45:9... and we know him as the Son of God. Catholics believe he is 100% man and 100% God. Jews can't handle this. But Moses told them centuries before I 'am (the Christ) and now it echos thru all time.

Mark, All I'm saying is talking about scriptures that you will never understand is a waste of time when you can just go to Jesus for faith.

Imagine it like being born again like Baptism... you wake up in water in heaven all young again. Like someone jumping into a pool to save you! The pool replaces the womb.

My latest one that I just learned from Jesus is ... "your faith has made you well!" The one I use the most is "let God handle it" Also "store up treasure in your heart".. I have been in love and its all inside my heart waiting to come out again. . when we meet in heaven. I believe this all...

Forgive and you will be forgiven. Do unto others as you want them to do to you. Liveth and believth & you shall never die. (all time fav) Worrying will not add one more hour to your life. Ask your father he knows what you need! Be merciful and you shall receive mercy! To name a few of my favs...

Forgive and you will be forgiven. Do unto others as you want them to do to you. Liveth and believth & you shall never die Worrying will not add one more hour to your life. Ask your father he knows what you need! To name a few of my favs.

I drowned at age 9 in a pool going down on my back just floating down there for 3 minutes (yes I said how do I get out of this in my mind) and then someone jumping in and saving me, and nobody but me recalls this event. Perhaps that is how you know you were saved! Maybe that's what heaven is...

Or these Atheist turn into the evil dream midgets who try to get into your dreams at night..b/c they are lonely. EEEK!!

Atheists do not and will not believe in God . . b/c they believe science can explain it all as an accidental happenings. Here's their dumb logic. They claim we all die, and turn to dust, eventually, so 'if they told me there was no God' while they had lived --and after death they will not...

Just stick to what Jesus is teaching.

My favorite teaching!! Jesus said to forgive and you will be forgiven. Around 5 min. This is how I follow Jesus by listening to what he is saying.

I live my life that I will never die, and I trust in Jesus in what he said here.. but if you want what Lazarus had you will have to wait for his return. The yet to live thing. I can't wait for it.

He was face to face with him. . . but he asks the same question with the Shroud of Turin.