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Should we not fear the Lord and His judgment then?

And still, the people who belong to the world do not repent. Even though they KNOW from where their trouble comes. Revelation 6:16-17

Yes--I think the Church has always had tribulation coming from Satan and his followers. However, I think that the period spoken of in Daniel 9:27 is of a different character--the entirety of it will be a pouring out of the wrath of God Almighty and the Lamb. (see Revelation chapter 5 on).

Yes, I agree that the GREAT Tribulation is only 3.5 years but I believe the entire Tribulation will be 7 years. See Daniel 9:27

Even if it comes from Jesus Himself? (see Matthew 24). Let me make sure I'm understanding you--are you accusing me of something?

A "ploy" from whom?

Don't know if your last statement is correct--there's every indication that Israel's infatuation with the Antichrist will end when he performs the "abomination of desolation" in the Temple. (see Matthew 24:15) This appears to be a reference to Daniel 9:27---> "He [Antichrist] will confirm a...

I think the Second Coming is depicted in Zechariah 14:5. Zechariah 12:10 may be the time of being convinced of and acknowledging their grievous sin of rejecting their Messiah. I looked up the Hebrew in Strong's and the first meaning is to "look on"--true-- but the second meaning is to "pay...

LOL :cool:

And then, the Lord will send fire out of heaven, followed by the Final Judgment when Satan, death and hell are tossed into the Lake of Fire where the Antichrist, False Prophet and all of those taking the Mark of the Beast have been residing already for 1000 years. Then the New Jerusalem will...

The tribulation that Christians suffer from Satan and his minions, is NOT the same as the Tribulation which is a time of God's wrath and the wrath of the Lamb being poured out on those who belong to the world.

Exactly what my reading of Scripture tells me.

You and I apparently have a different understanding of the Millennial Kingdom--which I believe, based on Scripture, will be a mortal kingdom comprised of the survivors from the Tribulation and their descendants.

From what passage are you speaking? I'm not arguing with you but my reading of Zechariah chapters 12, 13 and 14 leads me to believe that they acknowledge their grievous sin of rejecting their Messiah before they see Him coming with His "holy ones" (Zechariah 14:5). In any case, it will happen...

It isn't what we want that matters, but what God wants. In any case, you can't compare that time with the times that will pertain to the Tribulation. The Great Tribulation will be a time of utter spiritual darkness. I expect that all the saints who went before us will be glad to see the...

Yes, I think you are right--first comes the acknowledgement. And then they will see Him and say, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord." The Church in its brokenness on what "she" sees coming on the earth, says, "Even so, come Lord Jesus." In the sorrow detailed in Zechariah 12, the...

I think that when the Holy Spirit changes you from the "inside out" you can't help but do "works". Often, I think we are unaware of our works. They are just the Fruit of the Spirit and we are quite grateful to be able to perform them. The first three, love, joy, peace come from His heart to...

You are quite welcome--that has always been a pondering point of mine as well. Somehow, it doesn't seem to be the whole story that it was just about idolatry. But it seems that Scripture would have told us more if it was important to our present understanding.

Yes, I believe so. He is also a descendant of King David. It has been said that being descended from David on both sides of His family was relatively rare. He had legal descent as Joseph's son--remembering that an adopted son has all the rights and privileges of a natural son--and His natural...

Agreed.