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Babies are innocent, baptized or not. Sin is an action that can only take place with understanding of right from wrong. Baptizing a baby doesn't guarantee he will be a believer. Circumcisism, like baptism, was a symbol. Circumcision of the penis never really promised a righteous position in...

Some of the people he addresses as saints were definitely sinful. "Let there be no sexual immorality, impurity, or greed among you. Such sins have no place among God's people." God's people here are "saints" in other interpretations. Why did he have to tell them this if they were already sinless?

Also, you told me before that this verse isn't about individual believers but only the apostles. Maybe try and be consistent in your misinformation.

That has nothing to do with this topic.

Paul calls the people in imperfect churches "Saint". How can he talk about the perfecting of Saints in Eph. 4 if they are already sinless?

There's no such thing biblically.

That's us, the saints. Every believer. Not one denomination.

What makes a person a saint? According to scripture, all believers are saints.

Oh my goodness... Every time I think you can't get any more ridiculous, you do. See that's the problem: whose true religion? Yours? What if your religions morals include killing children for being born into a house where the parents didn't baptize them?

With the churches approval and encouragement. It's actually no different than the Jews having to deliver Jesus to the Romans for execution. His blood was still on the ones who delivered him. And you defend the actions of a church when it did the same to anyone who didn't follow it's every...

So what?

I think I just told you. Unless you mean what denomination? Doesn't matter to me.

Lol, I guess you really didn't get the point of my story then. My experience with people who have been raised Catholic is that it more often turns them away from God than towards him. And yes, this can happen in other sects also. If there is no invitation to receive Christ in a church on a...

What does this change? You called the church and state killing " heretics justice when the Catholics ruled. But when Catholics were killed you call it murder. That's called hypocrisy.

Thee refuses to condemn what the church approved. Tortured and murdered " heretics including children. Do you agree with him? If not, this isn't addressed to you. Who is Dave Hunt? A few crazy Catholics? Get real, man. This wasn't an isolated incident, and I know Protestants did it too, I even...

Oh, so if it's Catholics being killed it's murder? But if it's Protestant being killed it's justice? If you are ok with your church approving torture and murder, how are you any different than the most radical Muslim?

Spoken like a true crusader. We can kill whoever we want and claim it was God's will. That's the cry of every religious terrorist.

They are based on observation... which is more convincing than bare " facts" As we have all observed, what isoften called fact is just data that is manipulated by someone with an agenda.

Because you are still listening to Rome instead of Jesus.

Really? Let me tell you about my first Sunday school teacher, Mrs. Komar ...a little Polish lady who came to America. She was raised Catholic, but never once given the truth, that she could accept Jesus personally and be saved from her sin. Not that she had to do this or that ritual to be...