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    9/23/17, Rev 12:5, X etc..

    "At that time" study Dan 12:1 "At that time Michael, the great prince who protects the children of your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in...
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    Rapture Debate.

    Only in your imagination. :rolleyes: John 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” Rom 4:7 "Blessed are those whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Rev 19:9 Then the angel said to...
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    Rapture Debate.

    This is referring to nonbelievers, Read Rom 1:18-32. A true born again believer in Christ will never deny Jesus. But the religious say otherwise, no? :rolleyes: Rev 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the...
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    Rapture Debate.

    The only perfect person that walked this earth was Jesus. You can't earn Grace. :rolleyes:
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    Rapture Debate.

    We'll see...
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    Rapture Debate.

    The agape love that is in believers will never leave us. Neither.. trouble hardship persecution famine nakedness danger sword death nor life angels nor demons the present nor the future nor any powers height nor depth nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love...
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    Rapture Debate.

    You're in for a rude awakening. Only to those who believe in the resurrection and are born again, but you don't believe. So I'm assuming the heaven you're referring to is from some new age meditation cd or something, or the Opera Winfrey show?
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    Rapture Debate.

    At the cross it is finished, to religious people it's not.
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    Rapture Debate.

    Right, but running the race is done on earth. :rolleyes: Exactly, He chastens. He doesn't kick you out of the family once you're in. You've been adopted to sonship. Eph 1:5, Gal 6:10. God chastens His saints right now in the Grace Period. He doesn't need the tribulation to do it. Again, the...
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    Rapture Debate.

    All 66 books are God-breathed eldios. I suggest you pray about it, since you're knee deep in the occult or whatever you worship. The heaven that Rev 12:1-5 is speaking of is in space skyangel, and yes where the sun, moon, planets and stars reside. Why do you think we can track it on...
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    Rapture Debate.

    The lights in the sky... where do you think Rev 12:1-5 takes place. :rolleyes: Rev 12:1-5 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman (Israel) clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She (Israel) was pregnant and cried out in pain as she...
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    Rapture Debate.

    No, the church and tribulation saints are completely separate from each other. The church are those who have come to faith in Jesus Christ during the Grace period in which we're in now, Rom 10:9. Tribulation saints are those who have come to faith after rapture inside Daniels 70th week, Rev 12:17.
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    Rapture Debate.

    Gen 1:14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years. 1 John 2:18-19 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many...
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    Rapture Debate.

    Right, but the predictions in the past didn't have Rev 12:1-5 sign starring them in the face, lol. Stellarium didn't even exist until 2001. :rolleyes: No, Christ is very much real. I assume he's false to those who don't believe like yourself? Wow, you're really starting to show your fruits...
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    Rapture Debate.

    So why are you preaching non-osas. You know better than that. John 6:39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. coming from a handle that thinks Rom 10:9 is a lie.. :rolleyes:
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    Why do they hate being called Christians

    John 6:39 :rolleyes: Rom 4:7 :rolleyes: 1 John 5:4-5. No, it says to the one who believes, my bankrupt friend. lol.
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    Why do they hate being called Christians

    Your turn.. John 3:16, John 5:24, John 6:35-40, John 10:25-30, Rom 4:7, Rom 8:38-39, Eph 1:13-14, Eph 4:30, Heb 6:18-19, Heb 9:12, Heb 10:11-14, 1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 5:9-14, 2 John 1:2.
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    Rapture Debate.

    Yes it is. I'm not the date setter, God is. Eze 39:9 “ ‘Then those who live in the towns of Israel will go out and use the weapons for fuel and burn them up—the small and large shields, the bows and arrows, the war clubs and spears. For seven years they will use them for fuel. Dan 7:25 He...
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    Why do they hate being called Christians

    Of course He is.
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    Rapture Debate.

    If Rev 12:1-5 is referring to Mary and Jesus 2,000 years ago, then why can't anyone find the sign on Stellarium. Stellarium is a star tracking software, so why is it that we can only find it on 9/23/17. Wake up! If that's even possible anymore. :rolleyes: The woman in Rev 12 represents Israel...