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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    Looks? That is what natural man foolishly thinks. 1Co 2:13-14 (13) Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. (14) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God...
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    One reason why the rapture can not be post-trib

    Do you believe the verse is a literal narrative? Will it be a literal millennial kingdom on Earth for 1,000 years where animals will sit next to each other? Or is God painting a picture representing something?
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Speculation. Your understanding on "the lost tribes of Israel" is biblically lacking. Allow me to explain WITH SCRIPTURE regarding the so-called ten lost tribes of Israel. Why is it important to know what happened to the 10 northern tribes of Israel? Well, there are many reasons, not the least...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Yep...you do ERR! We read the same passage yet we differ in understanding who Christ talked about. You with carnal mind thought God was talking about national Israel while I, with spiritual discernment, where God was talking about spiritual Israel in Christ where He is NOW a cornerstone of...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    No you misrepresented what I said. You need to read the whole context of my statement again. Red herrings You do err, for you do not know what Scripture says. :) Nope, not according to the Word of God. False! We are not on a mission to save physical geopolitical nations. We are sent on...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Like I said, red herrings. The replacement theology is not found in Scripture, therefore your practical claim on the term is false and wrong. Ephesians 1:4 "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:"...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Rom 11:28 (28) As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. The unbelieving Jews are enemies of the gospel, and indeed of converted Jews and Gentiles. But as for the election of Israel, these are beloved for...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Rom 11:27 (27) For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. The old Covenant with Israel is passed away, and we are living in the New Covenant period. We must ask ourselves honestly, how many Covenants did the Lord establish in prophecy that would take away the sins of...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Romans 1:16-18 "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. For...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Rom 11:26 (26) And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: This blindness in part, or harness of Israel's heart will continue throughout the New Covenant period until the fullness of the Gentiles...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Rom 11:25 (25) For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. This has become one of the most controversial verses of scriptures...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Finally, you quoted verses in Romans 11. Congratulations! But you still MISUNDERSTOOD what God talked about. I will respond to each verse you quoted separately as permitted due to limited space. I will start with Romans 11:24 here: Rom 11:24 (24) For if thou wert cut out of the olive...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    ?? You do not make any sense here. Could it be because you are one with nature that cannot understand spiritual things, 1CO 2:13-14? Humm! According to what Scripture. So? Do you even study the firstfruits throughout Scripture? All believers in Christ are the firstfruits (salvation). It...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    LIKE I SAID, prove it. You have not explained how the verses within Romans 11 destroy my position. Come on! Huh? I did not skip. It is because you have not yet explain what verses in Romans 11 you believe have destroyed my position. I am waiting. What verses? Show it to us. All you do...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    Show us the Scripture where God said "Firstfruit Jews." So again, you do not know what you are talking about. It seems foolish to a natural man like you. Didn't you read the Scripture? 1Co 2:13-14 (13) Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    You are so wrong on many levels. The 144,000 is the spiritual number, not head count, representing ALL God's elect that John "HEARD". And then look around and saw the great multitudes of all same God Elect. God was talking about the same people, all of them from the Old Testament and the New...
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    Who Really Are The 144,000?

    How?? Explain this yourself. Prove it to see if your understanding of Romans 11 warrants it. Take your time. You do err, not knowing the Scripture. Replacement Theology is not a phrase that is in the Bible. It is a phrase conjured up by those opposed to the truth of God's very own words...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Did I say that? No. It will be on that self-same day the moment the trumpet shall sound, Christ returns and the rapture occurs. Yes that 7th trumpet being the "last trump".
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No, where is Scripture proof of your nonsense? Rev 10:7 (7) But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. Do you even understand what "the days of the voice of the...