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Im not arguing that there’s no “harpazo” I’m arguing that all believers participate in it not just elite Christian’s in the “end times”.

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: The rapture can’t be reconciled with that verse. In fact that verse says the rapture is impossible.

Enoch is the example. Enoch was taken to heaven yet Enoch died. How did the writer of Hebrews know Enoch died? Because people witnessed his dead body.

I’m confident that you’re the one on the wrong side of this.

Paul doesn’t preach a rapture, Paul teaches the translation of Gods people from this world to the next. If you believed your Bible you would agree with me.

People please stop spreading the rapture heresy. The rapture is a lie and it’s covering up one of the most important and uplifting doctrines in the Bible. That doctrine is BELIEVERS IN CHRIST NEVER DIE. Enoch is the model for how all believers leave this world. ENOCH DIED but he did not SEE...

Galatians 3:19 (KJV): "Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator." Hebrews 9:26 (KJV): "For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the...

People please stop spreading the rapture heresy. The rapture is a lie and it’s covering up one of the most important doctrines in the Bible. That doctrine is BELIEVERS IN CHRIST NEVER DIE. Enoch is the model for how all believers leave this world. ENOCH DIED but he did not SEE his death...

You’re adding your interpretation to what Paul said. If Paul would’ve meant what you said then Paul would’ve said “then THOSE that are alive and remain….”. Paul was not in the dark about the subject, Paul knew full well what he was talking about just like I know what he was talking about. What...

What happened to Elijah?

I believe the context is the dead in Christ, which were the Old Testament believers in Christ, should rise first then Paul and everyone else that is a believer from the cross forward will be caught up to be with them in the air. Question for you. If Jesus says that "whosoever believes in him...

My point is that Paul being one of the “WE that are caught up” rules out the “coming of the Lord” meaning the second coming.

Which “coming”? Have you considered that Jesus comes to us at salvation? What about when it’s time to die? Stephen looked up into heaven and saw Jesus ready to take him to heaven. We can’t assume that every time the Bible talks about Jesus coming that it’s always referring to the second coming.

Paul is talking about the translation from this world to the next world (heaven). This is something that every single believer including Paul will experience. That’s why we are to comfort one another with those words.

The pre, mid, nor post trib positions can ever be reconciled because there is no such thing as the “rapture” and is proven in this verse. 1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are...

I’m sorry you feel that way.

The 70th week is the key to understanding the prophecy. Jesus rode in to Jerusalem on Palm Sunday as King of kings, a few days later he was cut off. Exactly 7 days later he rose from the dead. The resurrection of Christ confirmed the promises God made to Abraham. The 7 weeks are the restoration...

I don’t mind at all CTK but I’ll have to do it tomorrow.

You can make up anything you want I suppose.

With that reasoning you could say the 70th week is still going on today. You’re trying to cram a square peg in a round hole.