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  1. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    Good. Where did I say the scriptures were stupid? I didn't. I said the thread title is stupid. I'll rephrase: Claiming that Peter is not the ROCK is scriptural blindness. He immediately followed up with Matthew 16:19 “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven . . .” An explanation is...
  2. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    2. Matthew 16:19 “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven . . .” The “power of the keys” has to do with ecclesiastical discipline and administrative authority with regard to the requirements of the faith, as in Isaiah 22:22 (cf. Is 9:6; Job 12:14; Rev 3:7). From this power flows the...
  3. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    Peter was never founder of the Church, never Lord of the Church; does that answer your question? The Catholic doctrine of the papacy is biblically based, and is derived from the evident primacy of St. Peter among the apostles. Like all Christian doctrines, it has undergone development through...
  4. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    If you want to discuss the greater plan of God to pour out his spirit on all flesh, open a thread. The stupid thread title for this discussion is "Peter is not the rock". That lunacy has been debunked several times over. That is the focus of this discussion, and most of THIS thread. I am not...
  5. epostle1

    Peter's Hope

    "Roman" Catholic as a blanket term for all Catholics was first used as an insult by the Anglicans in the 16th century. They wanted to distinguish themselves from Rome and keep the name "Catholic". There are 23 rites and Roman or Latin is just one of them, although it is the largest by...
  6. epostle1

    Peter's Hope

    Still waiting.
  7. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    Strong's Concordance 4074 Petros: "a stone" or "a boulder," Peter, one of the twelve apostles Original Word: Πέτρος, ου, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: Petros Phonetic Spelling: (pet'-ros) Short Definition: Peter Definition: Peter, a Greek name meaning rock. Strong's Greek...
  8. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    The whole point of the discussion is ALL about Peter; you have to go in 20 different directions because you lost this debate. In order to assert that Peter is not the rock, you have to deny his very name given to him by Jesus, Peter's name throughout the NT and numerous other biblical...
  9. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    "...If you and the Catholic church want to select just the message as it pertains to Peter??? No, the CC teaches the whole OT/NT message, omitting nothing. The discussion is about Peter. Of course, but the discussion is about Peter. If you are going to challenge Catholic doctrines you need to...
  10. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    The reference to Isaiah 22 shows that the structure of Jesus’ kingdom was modeled on King David’s dynastic court. In Luke 1.32-33 Jesus’ birth is announced in royal terms. He will inherit the throne of his father David. He will rule over the house of Jacob and his kingdom shall never end. Like...
  11. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    The five basic assumptions of non-Catholic Christians can be corrected by looking at the history of the early church. Did Jesus envision and plan a monarchical papacy? Was the early church de-centralized? Was the early church essentially local and congregational? Did the early church only...
  12. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    Still can't find any verses on Peter's primacy? Nowhere in the Bible is the Bible used against the Church. You do it because it is a man made Protestant tradition. There is nothing in any of your quotes that contradict the definition of the papacy. There are no man made doctrines in the CC...
  13. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    BIBLICAL EVIDENCE FOR THE PRIMACY OF PETER Matt. to Rev. - Peter is mentioned 155 times and the rest of apostles combined are only mentioned 130 times. Peter is also always listed first except in 1 Cor 3:22 and Gal. 2:9 (which are exceptions to the rule). Matt 10:2; Mark 1:36; 3:16; Luke...
  14. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    The definition says nothing about ruling over people, and it's not about the commission, its about Peter. Additionally, this reply takes sections out of context of the definition. Hebrews 13:17 says, "Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give...
  15. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    It says, "ministry of a supreme pastor", it says nothing about ruling over people. That's the typical Protestant pre-conceived straw man. The Pope you don't believe in never existed.
  16. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    "Flesh and blood" means no human revealed to Peter who Jesus was, but the Father. Jesus is not putting down "flesh and blood", and He is not putting down Peter's flesh and blood, that's your Calvinoid/Manichaeism talking. Jesus always refers to the person of Peter and you can't see that with...
  17. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    Paul rebuked Peter for his behavior, not his teaching. Several Popes have been rebuked down through history. That doesn't fit your ridiculous preconceived notions of the papacy. Peter was the one who taught infallibly on the Gentile's salvation in Acts 10,11. With this rebuke, Paul is really...
  18. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    Peter is the Rock on which the Church is Built Mark 3:16; John 1:42 – Jesus renames Simon "Kepha" in Aramaic which literally means "rock." This was an extraordinary thing for Jesus to do, because "rock" was not even a name in Jesus' time. Jesus did this, not to give Simon a strange name, but to...
  19. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    This is nothing more than a temper tantrum.
  20. epostle1

    Peter Was Never The Rock

    For the Protestant Reformers to rationalize breaking away from what was universally acknowledged in their culture as the Christian Church, it was necessary for them to deny the Catholic Church’s authority. To maintain their positions, they were forced to portray it as a kind of "anti-Church"...