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What is your point? Speak clearly. No, the church will be with Christ in the air at that point as they would have been caught up to Him just prior to that because 1 Thessalonians 4:14-5:3 is all one event. No, that will be the church because we are not in spiritual darkness. Paul was writing...

But, you don't think that is supposed to be applied in a literal sense. Do you have any guesses as to what that would mean in a non-literal sense? There is no requirement that it would be something that everyone could see first before anyone started fleeing to the mountains. Once some saw it...

The church will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air just before 1 Thesalonians 5:2-3 occurs, so there will be no believers left on the earth to flee to the mountains at that point. There is no relation between Matthew 24:15-21 and 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3. Also, fleeing to the mountains was...

He makes ridiculous comments like that often which is why no one takes him seriously. Obviously, no one wants to be deceived. A more ridiculous comment than that has never been made in the history of the world.

You are not understanding that Matthew 13:36-43 involves what happens at the judgment and the separation of the wheat and tares should be compared to Matthew 25:31-46 where there is a separation of the sheep and goats for judgment. That is a different context from Revelation 14:14-20. That...

Notice how @marks didn't address anything I said in this post and just picked out one thing from what I said here (first sentence of the last paragraph) and accused me of supposedly rewording the text with no explanation of why he was accusing me of that. How convenient for him to do that while...

That's the least he can do. If he's going to make an accusation he should be willing to show exactly what he is accusing me of doing and why.

Which verse? I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying because I was not referring to just one verse. I said "If you look at the text closely you should see that each person is judged according to whether they served Jesus or not.". Here the verses I was referring to in relation to...

Have you never actually read John 10? The first fold is what Jesus called "this fold" when talking about Jewish believers and here you are trying to say "the first fold is the Gentiles"? You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Also, the seed of the woman are said to be Jesus Himself (Rev 12:5)...

How about you do that and then tell me how you interpret it instead of making accusations of rewording the text? I was not even talking about one verse, I was talking about Matthew 25:31-46 as a whole.

LOL. How did I reword the text? I was giving an interpretation of the text as I see it. You should not talk to anyone if you don't want anyone to give their interpretations. This seems like an excuse for you to get out of having to explain why you interpret the chosen/elect differently than how...

What in the world are you talking about? Who is is like the Son of man except for Jesus? Try actually addressing what I said instead of asking ridiculous questions.

The guy trying to claim that the 7th seal comes before the 1st seal is asking me this question? LOL! Of course I'm being serious. Are you? I have a hard time believing that anyone can possibly be serious by claiming that the 7th seal comes before the 1st seal. Of course not. Hello? How many...

Nope. He combined "this fold" (Jewish believers) with the "other sheep" (Gentile believers) into one fold with one shepherd (John 10:11-16) which represents the one body of Christ consisting of Jew and Gentile believers in the church.

That is not a question that has anything to do with being Amil or Premil. Watching and being ready has to do with being spiritually in right standing with God and being in spiritual light instead of spiritual darkness. 1 Thessalonians 5:2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will...

The word "nations" is translated from the Greek word "ethnos" which can mean people in general, the heathen, the Gentiles and other things. In this case it's referring to people in general and they are all separated to Christ's right hand (the sheep) and left hand (the goats). I already told...

Some people ignore that the time of the judgment of the dead, which is described in Revelation 20:11-15, is signaled by the seventh trumpet which has the dead being judged around that time (Rev 11:18) instead of 1,000+ years later as Premils like you believe. And they ignore that the dead are...

Yes. The church. Consisting of Jew and Gentile believers. What are you saying here? Can you please try to be clear? I asked you what do you think God hasn't done for Israel that He has done for "us"? You didn't answer that question, so please answer it.

Do you understand that Revelation contains a lot of symbolic text? Why do you take the text so literally? Revelation 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And...

The woman is described in Revelation 12. You ignore that Revelation 12 itself shows the seed of the woman as being Jesus Christ (verse 5) and those who belong to Him (verse 17). That is the church.