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  1. Jay Ross

    GEN 1:1-2 SPEAKS MORE THAN CREATION!

    What I call an error you call a truth and what I call a truth you call an error. Who is right will not be determined on this forum, by our piers, but by God/Christ at the time of our judgement. I am secure in what is my understanding of the story of Abraham and the sign posts of when he...
  2. Jay Ross

    GEN 1:1-2 SPEAKS MORE THAN CREATION!

    In your rebuttal, you have not stated, "Why it is so?" that my argument for the reason that Joshua 24:2 only mentions Terah, Abraham and Nahor is the weakest excuse that you have heard. You then go on to state, "well at that time all, of them was dead. and that was not the context of what...
  3. Jay Ross

    Verses you may not have known that were in the Bible

    I gave you a like, but would have preferred it to have been half a like because your initial explanation was correct but the second half of your explanation was off and out of left field.
  4. Jay Ross

    GEN 1:1-2 SPEAKS MORE THAN CREATION!

    I understand your confusion and your lack of understanding, as you have built your precepts upon other's precepts and the outcome of that folly is that you will fall over backwards and be caught in the snare. You suggested that I read Gill's commentary on Gen 24:7 and his words condemned him...
  5. Jay Ross

    GEN 1:1-2 SPEAKS MORE THAN CREATION!

    Now doing what you could have done with the raw data provided, and to make it easier for you to see I have provided the following snip from my spreadsheet. It seems pretty clear to me who Stephen was referring to this list of possible fathers with respect to Abraham: - Noah, Shem, Arachshad...
  6. Jay Ross

    GEN 1:1-2 SPEAKS MORE THAN CREATION!

    Read as far as the basis for his POV and stopped. It is a pile of cow dropped pads, it is rather runny and covers much truth before it hardens and people can handle the cow pad. It is up to you whether or not you accept all of the scriptures as being true. The issue that we have to solve for...
  7. Jay Ross

    GEN 1:1-2 SPEAKS MORE THAN CREATION!

    You will have to create your own database from Genesis 5, 11:1-12:6 and it should look something like this. In the snip from my spreadsheet I have highlighted the years in which Noah died and the years that Abraham arrived at and left Haran. The age I have used for when Abraham arrived in...
  8. Jay Ross

    Heresy within Christianity

    This is true that that is what Paul wrote, but which death was he speaking of? Was it not the Second Death that Paul was referring too?
  9. Jay Ross

    GEN 1:1-2 SPEAKS MORE THAN CREATION!

    No, I am not. I just do not favour one section of the scriptures over another like you have, where you have favoured your wrong understanding of Acts 7:4 over Genesis 11:26. Terah was 70 years old when Abraham was born. This is confirmed in Genesis 22:22-24 when Abraham is told about his...
  10. Jay Ross

    Heresy within Christianity

    But it takes a lot for people to stop believing in a lemon because of the car manufacturer's achievements with past cars. Likewise scholarship does not necessarily lead to good translations of the original text. Consider Chinese's English translations. The Chinese texts is clear, but the...
  11. Jay Ross

    Heresy within Christianity

    I am not arguing that the original source Hebrew text is wrong. What I am suggesting is that the scholarship in the translations have got it wrong. That is the thing, I am not denying what is plainly there in the Hebraic texts, but I am stating that the expressed context of the English...
  12. Jay Ross

    Heresy within Christianity

    But that is what your theory is based on, even if you do not recognize that that is what you are doing, i.e. your thinking is that they could not have known that back then, but today we are much more intelligent and therefore can know about it now. That is applying the logic of the Darwinian...
  13. Jay Ross

    Heresy within Christianity

    But the Egyptians knew about the second death when Abraham went down to Egypt and they were much afraid because of this, and this maybe the very reason why the Egyptians hated the Hebrews, because Hebrews were an abomination to the Egyptians. Abraham, who was a Hebrew, was not an abomination to...
  14. Jay Ross

    Heresy within Christianity

    No, the Hebrew text states that Adam will Die, the second death. H:4171 Mowt, "die", H:4191 taamuwt, "the second death." but the scholars', so called "technical understanding is to change the meaning of mowt to have the meaning of "surely," which elsewhere in the OT is translated as "die."...
  15. Jay Ross

    Heresy within Christianity

    It seems that I got it wrong as both Paul and Yehren like to argue for the sake of arguing.
  16. Jay Ross

    Heresy within Christianity

    The so called technical translation of this verse has hidden the fact that Genesis 2:17 is speaking that if we sin, in the case of Adam, the eating of the forbidden fruit, then we will, at a defined time in the future, suffer the Second Death. To put it another way, "If we sin, we become a...
  17. Jay Ross

    Verses you may not have known that were in the Bible

    That is not my experience. If Christians have been promised the whole earth as our inheritance, then why was Abraham not promised the earth in Genesis 12:1, with the translators telling us that he was only promised some Land, like the Land of Canaan. If we too are grafted into the same vine...
  18. Jay Ross

    Don't waste this time.

    I gave you a like because you look so much better without your disguise and hard hat.
  19. Jay Ross

    Verses you may not have known that were in the Bible

    Perhaps, the verse is saying something very different like, "For a lofty host may carry your voice and the owner of the wings may tell of the matter." Making sense of things can be very difficult when scholars try and explain the Hebrew texts in a context which people may understand and...
  20. Jay Ross

    GEN 1:1-2 SPEAKS MORE THAN CREATION!

    I can agree on the date for the start of the flood, but your view that 427 years later, God entered into his covenant with Abraham, is a little more difficult for me to come to terms with. By my calculations I can determine the following: - The flood lasted for 1 year Arachshad was born 2...