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    DEBATE HOW MANY LUTHERANS DOES IT TAKE TO

    :D As I grew up Baptist...I appreciate that one! Here's another one I think is good...(hope it's not too 'racy' to have on here!) A man walked into the lingerie department of a major department store and shyly approached one of the staff. “Excuse me,” he said, “I’d like to buy a bra for my...
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    DEBATE HOW MANY LUTHERANS DOES IT TAKE TO

    Hi Horsecamp! I'm not exactly following you in regards to the Lutheran side of things...but if I understand you correctly, your main point is that Christians should not feel it is allowed to them to debate the word of God? And by debate I mean: question, judge, examine under the moralistic...
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    False morality and non-smokers

    Thread locked...for the following reasons: 1...a studied lack of regard for the OP topic 2...a vast degree of disrespect for other members 3...blatantly ignoring requests to consider both of the above. No point letting it go any further I suspect.
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    False morality and non-smokers

    Gentlemen....not only have you deviated from the topic, you are descending into nothing more than name calling. Cut it out, act like you're Christians in your disagreements, or just be wise enough to back off.
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    False morality and non-smokers

    As to the OP topic....do non smokers have a false sense of morality? Well....it's a bit hard to speak for everyone. But I can speak for me... I am a non smoker. I think smoking smells bad. I think that being addicted to something is perhaps questionable....but then, it's all subjective, isn't...
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    Jesus died for you but you don't have to do anything for Him?

    I certainly try, but am hardly perfect. Besides, I know that scripture tells me that without the Spirit's help, I can't do anything good anyway. So I strive, and pray for constant help in these matters. The joy I get when the Spirit does prod me along covers the sometimes frustration of not...
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    Have you noticed.......?

    Hey Aspen! How are you going?! Well I hope! Nice topic...pertinent as well, as I believe many people miss understanding the topic of love...the kind of love Jesus calls us to. There are a few things in your post I wish to comment on...not out of disagreement, but, I hope, in stretching the idea...
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    Faith killers

    Personally, I think people get stuck on the whole "law/freedom from law" issue too much...and therefore miss the big picture entirely. Did the gospel of grace free us from the Mosaic Law? Yes, but that doesn't free us to be lawless. In fact if we go on to be completely lawless, we are missing...
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    Where is heaven going to be?

    I tend to think that there is a difference between "heaven" and "the new heavens and new earth". I think "heaven" is the current dwelling place of the Lord...the place that souls go once their bodies are in the ground. There they wait until they are resurrected and given a 'new' body....just as...
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    Pay Your Tithe OR Spend Eternity In Hell?

    Under Christ we have freedom from law. The gospel of grace is clear on that. But another thing is also clear....as Christians we should want the gospel to go as far as it can...be it in our home town or on the other side of the world. That takes money. Feeding ministers and their families take...
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    In the last days they will heap up......

    The OP, which had many valid points, still disturbed me somewhat. I believe it did due to the over all tone of it, which to me sounded angry and accusatory. Granted there is much sin in the world today, an alarming amount within the Church. But let's look at that passage in Timothy again: I...
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    Which image do you expect Jesus to be in when he returns?

    Um....I think you may have missed my point! I don't actually attend a church with 'those images'...if you read back, I said the language is obviously symbolic. For example...a sword coming from his mouth. Do I really think Jesus is going to have a physical sword protruding from his mouth? No...
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    What does God get out of all this?

    I'm not sure I quite understand exactly what you are asking, but I will answer anyway...! The bible tells us that God is ultimately after his own glory. This is just and right, as he is completely holy, good, righteous...etc. God therefore created man TO glorify him. Mankind sinned, however...
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    Which image do you expect Jesus to be in when he returns?

    Um...aren't we given a description of Christ as he returns? Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he...
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    WHY DO CHRISTIANS SHOOT THE WOUNDED?

    Amen Andy, all well said and true. I think also it needs to be pointed out that not all 'disciplines' are just based around what the majority of the Church members are doing. It has to do with fruit. Our behaviours show our fruit...the real state of our hearts...and sometimes biblical leaders...
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    Best Study Bible?

    Yes, that is true. But (and I fully admit I'm about as far from an expert on this matter as I could be!) it seems to me that most of the really troubling bible versions come from when man has tried to blend too much of himself or his culture into it. They try to dress it up (or perhaps dumb it...
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    Best Study Bible?

    I wouldn't say that the bible divides and turns away....it's all on us. People will disagree and argue and divide...even over things that should bring us together. It's not God's word that's at fault....it's human sinfulness.
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    Spiritual Abuse and Christmas Trees

    In regards the Christmas tree...worship to a pagan entity, to the tree itself....I don't know if that's something we can ever know for certain. As many 'pagan' explanations as there are for the tree, there are also stories of worship to the true God. Take for example the story of Martin Luther...
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    Best Study Bible?

    I'm sorry....are you saying that the bible cannot be Gods word to us, as it is written by men...and that therefore we mustn't rely or read it? May I then ask how you know of Christ, his life, his gospel and his will? Oh...and I totally agree with Hammerstone...I love the ESV study bible...but I...
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    Spiritual Abuse and Christmas Trees

    You know...at times, I wonder why Christians have such a hard time with things. Let's just take a step back and review....God made everything, and it was good. People got involved and it got bad. After Jesus came both He and Paul made some fairly huge issue's over Christians having freedom...and...