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  1. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    What Paul is plainly teaching in "1 Corinthians 1:21-25" is that the Gospel is the power of God onto salvation to all who believe (1 Corinthians 1:21), to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile, just as Paul also wrote in "Romans 1:16-17." Romans 1:16 (WEB) 16 For I am not ashamed of the Gospel...
  2. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    Yes, to understand we use exegesis. Changing the meaning, or adding your own assumptions, is not exegesis. As for John 6, I already gave an exact explanation of the Greek used for the word "For" in "John 6:40," and I also showed to you the context, beginning at "John 6:37" in post: TULIP an...
  3. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    That is your philosophy. The believers are to remain in the faith to the end to inherit the promises. You choose to reject God's Word; so, that is on you. Hebrews 6:11-12 (WEB) 11 We desire that {{{each one of you}}} may show the same diligence to the fullness of hope even to the end, 12 that...
  4. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    CadyandZoe said: Let's not overlook the essence of Jesus's argument here. According to Jesus, God is accountable for whether someone has faith in Jesus or not. People believe in Jesus because God has granted them to Jesus. Those who do not have faith in Jesus do so because God has not given them...
  5. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    setst777 said: I am comfortable with what the Scriptures reveal about God's justice. When God judges people for their own sins, for rejecting His grace, then, of course this violates our human freedom, which is the due punishment for their wickedness. What do the Scriptures state? God is not...
  6. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    setst777 said: Lord Jesus identifies who the "all" are whom the Father gives to the Son in "John 6:40." John 6:39-40 (WEB) 39 This is the will of my Father who sent me, that of {{{all}}} he has given to me I should lose nothing, but should raise him up at the last day. 40 {{{For}}} this is the...
  7. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    setst777 said: I am comfortable with what the Scriptures reveal about God's justice. When God judges people for their own sins, for rejecting His grace, then, of course this violates our human freedom, which is the due punishment for their wickedness. God determines according to His will and...
  8. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    Why deny the obvious? Lord Jesus identifies who the "all" are whom the Father gives to the Son in "John 6:40." John 6:39-40 (WEB) 39 This is the will of my Father who sent me, that of {{{all}}} he has given to me I should lose nothing, but should raise him up at the last day. 40 {{{For}}}...
  9. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    I am comfortable with what the Scriptures reveal about God's justice. When God judges people for their own sins, for rejecting His grace, then, of course this violates our human freedom, which is the due punishment for their wickedness. God has hardened Israel for their continual rejection of...
  10. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    setst777 said: In John 6:40, Lord Jesus does identify "who" the "all" are whom the Father gives to the Son, which Lord Jesus identifies as "whoever believes." The word "For" [Greek: gar] in "John 6:40" explains the reason for what was stated previously in "John 6:39;" in that, "everyone who...
  11. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    I have no problem at all with God hardening a person's heart in judgment because they continually refused His grace. That is righteous of God to do so. setst777 said: Your own statements show that God can do nothing but create people for a particular destination considering what you believe...
  12. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    In John 6:40, Lord Jesus does identify "who" the "all" are whom the Father gives to the Son, which Lord Jesus identifies as "whoever believes." John 6:40 states: “For [Greek: gar] this is the will of the one who sent me, that everyone who sees the Son, and believes in him, should have eternal...
  13. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    God always hardens a person's heart in judgment because they refused His grace so they can continue in their wickedness, just as Israel had done (Romans 11:7-12). But the humble, crushed, the heavy laden, will hear and believe because their hearts are prepared for the message of salvation. The...
  14. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    I agree with all that you wrote, except for the parts I quoted from you above. John 6:37 states: All those the Father gives me will come to me. He who comes to me I will in never cast out. “Verse 37” tells us that there exists only one reason why anyone comes to the son, and that is because...
  15. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    setst777 said: You disagree with the verse. Read the context, pay attention to grammar. It is not a grammar issue for you because you do not care about the grammar. setst777 said: The Scriptures do not teach that God chooses some to believe and give to the Son; rather, the will of God is to...
  16. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    setst777 said: There is only one way to read them, if you understand how to communicate. What "certain take?" Just read the plain to understand Word of God. The Spirit will only indwell those who first believe to give them life. John 7:38 (WEB) 38 He who believes in me, as the Scripture has...
  17. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    You disagree with the verse. Read the context, pay attention to grammar. You will never understand by quoting isolated verses. The Scriptures do not teach that God chooses some to believe and give to the Son; rather, the will of God is to give to the Son those who believe in the Son. John 6...
  18. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    There is only one way to read them, if you understand how to communicate. The Spirit will only indwell those who first believe to give them life. John 7:38 (WEB) 38 He who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, from within him will flow rivers of living water.” 39 But he said this about...
  19. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    The Spirit will only indwell those who first believe to give them life. John 7:38 (WEB) 38 He who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, from within him will flow rivers of living water.” 39 But he said this about the Spirit, which those believing in him were to receive. Ephesians 1:13 In...
  20. setst777

    TULIP an open discussion

    The Scriptures do not teach that God chooses some to believe and give to the Son; rather, the will of God is to give to the Son those who believe in the Son. John 6: 39 This now is the will of my Father who sent me, that of all he has given to me I should lose nothing, but should raise him up...