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You cant prove anything you teach, you have no Scripture for it that is in context with your beliefs. That is the authority I claim against you, Matthew.

Of course you see it that way, you see no wrong in what you teach! Mixing a little truth with the false is always how it's done, Satan's trademark. That would be the "good words and fair speech," exactly what you are doing right now.

Which brings us to the 144,000 which is just another contention with the principles of Christianity. It's just an ongoing argument with JW's that never ends, virtually everything discussed with them ends in argument!

John 15:18 "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." Are you a born-again believer, Plavious?

My point, is the hearing and accepting of that Gospel a work? No it's not! That's how Paul can say, "we are saved by Grace through faith, not of works."

If presenting the Gospel to another is works, then Paul would not have said that "we are saved by faith and not of works." Ernest, I think you are reading in what is not there.

I would say that should be accompanied by an explanation.

It's being baptized into the death of Christ through faith, entering the New Covenant. I agree we just have a down payment on our salvation until the resurrection where the purchase in made complete. But we are told that we can have assurance of our salvation here and now. John makes it clear...

I'm sorry Matthew, but I have to just cut to the bottom line on this. There are some here who teach contrary to sound doctrine. Am I to love these people? No, I'm not! My Bible tells me to mark them/identify them and avoid them! Rom. 16:17-18 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which...

The meek are the opposite of the self-righteous, they are the born-again. It's hard for me to understand how an intelligent person such as yourself can take the Scriptures in such a corrupted manner.

The first rule of interpreting Scripture that was taught to me, was to read the surroundings context. I don't think the JW's have taken that rule to heart, not sure they are even aware of it. Like so many other groups, they just pick out something they can fit in their narrative, and there you...

OH, I forgot! Heaven is reserved for only the JW's. What a special group you're a member of, Robert.

Marty, I have a suggestion! Why not wrap yourself up in the knowledge of our Lord's salvation and His way of Godly living in this present world, so you can be of help to yourself and others?

Like someone has already said, you are ignoring the answer. There must be a motive for that, no thanks.

This thread should have been placed in the Prophecy Forum. Personally, I don't go there. What I believe in Prophecy, I keep to myself, not going to argue this stuff, waste of time for me.

One third of Israel will be left according to Zechariah, plus no doubt millions of Gentiles from the nations. The first order of business for Christ at His return is separating the nations that supported Israel and those who did not. There will be millions on earth at this time, who were not...

In chapter 39, where I quoted, it says, "all men of war." That should tell us the destruction comes to these men of war. Who are they? The armies of Gog, the anti-christ.

On a positive note, it fails me to think of a better way for a believer to practice restraint than to have conversation with a JW. So I guess you could say that they are teaching us.

If you want a better understanding of this, read Ezekiel 38 and 39. It is the battle of Armageddon in graphic detail. Concerning the great supper of God for the fowls of the air, Ezek. 39:17-20 "And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast...

Would you care to explain, Robert, how those not born again can be righteous? Show us that in Scripture, not in opinion.