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  1. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    “Man is without excuse for not knowing God”. It is evident that God is real and everyday the world sees His glory.
  2. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    When it comes to election/predestination it is important to know that no one receives injustice. The wages of sin is death, a wage is something you earn. To those whom are saved it is only by God's grace - they don't deserve it. I bet that everyone here who has prayed for someone's salvation...
  3. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    Stranger, I was thinking about this today and I'm glad you mentioned it. How beautiful this walk of faith is and the God we serve. The more I learn about God and grow in understanding the more I am thankful for His grace because I realize just the punishment I deserve. None of us wants God to be...
  4. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    "The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God" Romans 8:16 "The one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning..." 1 John. 3:9 "By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice...
  5. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    John 17:9 - "I pray for them, I am not praying for the world, but for those You have given to Me, for they are yours." You are free to believe what you want, Nancy. I won't fight with a sister in Christ because that causes discord and I don't wish for that. You mentioned in your last reply to...
  6. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    If all men were called then they would have been justified then gloried. Everything in the Believer's life is from God's grace.
  7. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    I believe it is important to note that it is in mans very nature to go against God. I do not see it as humans choosing that road - but only doing what is natural for us as fallen beings. Mankind does not know anything else but rebellion. Our desires apart from Christ are not pure and even as...
  8. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    God called Abraham from a Pagan land full of idols. The chances of him knowing anything about the One true God is slim. If God is going to reach a person's heart He will do it in anyway He pleases and that is not for me to judge. But to answer your question, according to Romans 1:20 mankind is...
  9. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    Predestined to adoption is pretty clear that it is about salvation. It clearly says, "He chose us". What do you do with that? God chose YOU.
  10. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    The dividing line comes to what you believe about mankind's condition. Personally, it is clear that man is evil and comes into the world with a sin nature / separated from God. Mankind (unsaved) are children of the devil soooo you're gonna have a hard time convincing me that children of the...
  11. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    Not everyone will be saved. Labeling it as corporate is to beat around the bush with it, whether you believe in predestination or not, it is in the Bible. The WHOLE WORLD will not be saved.
  12. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    Yes, no longer because Christ set us free. Those outside of Christ are still slaves and not free (In bondage) and under the influence of the devil
  13. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    God's Word, The One and Only True God who sent His Son to die for my sins. Ephesians 1:4-6 - According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus...
  14. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    I believe that total depravity is the complete fallen nature of man. Mankind as a whole is undone and every part of us is stained and influenced by sin. Man won't submit to God unless there is conviction nor does man desire to submit to God Almighty. There are no good people on this earth. None...
  15. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    If I must pick a camp then I would pitch my tent with the Calvinist.
  16. LC627

    Who Does The Father Draw?

    Romans 9:16 - Romans 9:16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy.