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(kriss;10650) However I keep coming back to the same thing. If you take all Christians and therefore Gods laws out of any organization whether it be military,(national)Police force(local) or even your household. What do you have left? I have faith that my family and I can handle anything with...

(kriss;10589) I think you are both right and wrong yes there is spiritual warfare there is also literal warfare many of the hero's of the bible were described as great warriors David (the very line of Christ) who killed Goliath when he was young. We have to be very careful to use those kind of...

(thesuperjag;10591) While I won't state that much...If war is truly based on the love of money, (I Timothy 6:10) then I think that military is not a very smart way to go to and join them...as there is nothing good about it. It is nothing but wretched food. Like we said, we don't know people's...

(kriss;10557) dosent it basically come down to reconcilling the verses belowExd 15:3 The LORD [is] a man of war: the LORD [is] his nameJoel 3:9Proclaim this among the nations: Prepare for war! Rouse the warriors! Let all the fighting men draw near and attack. Jesus' teaching of "Love your...

(kriss;10556) I agree with much you say,but so much of that is politics I don't know how you jump from that to condeming anyone that joins the military. What is the difference between the military and police force? I would not join police force either. ones local and ones nationalI understand...

(kriss;10545) But we are not talking about missionaries and our personal duties. You are taking it to a National military level. I am talking about overall discipleship and servanthood, kriss. I always have the Bible in my when I post. What I am saying is you take it to far when you condem the...

(kriss;10548) Goodnite faithful pleasent dreams:) thank you Kriss, I had a good night sleep.

I will respond tomorrow, it is way past my bed time. thanks everyone.

(thesuperjag;10543) I suppose this would help you too Faithful1.Luke 3:14 - And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages. This came from the KJV.It is so different...

Luke 6:35 (New International Version) 35But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.

(kriss;10535) One question faithful how is anyone going to be the light of the world if you have no military to defend your right of speech and freedom to speak it ? disciples in oppressed countries are doing it in inspite of their enemies many attacks. with God anything is possible. This is...

(thesuperjag;10536) Faithful1I'm going to ask you a question(s). K? ok 1. A person at your house came in and sexually assult your child... would youa. Let that person continuing doing that, never stop or b. Fight back to save your child from being sexually assulted. I do my best to stop it but...

(kriss;10530) faithful1I know we will never agree on this subject and I have no issuse with your personal opinions as Ive have said. What I do have issue with is you are taking a teaching of Christ and using it out of context and without reasoning to support your personal views. I brought Jesus...

(kriss;10527) You are forgetting that God is in control of the nations and war. Satan is in control of this world. You are second guessing God. of course you dont punish your children by killing them but you are not God. and God values the soul not the body What do you mean by second quessing...

Because thats what he wants us to do,he doesnt want us going out and making war with everyone we disagree with for know good reason but we can not know the mind of God,or second guess who he decides to war against. so you are saying it is ok to join and kill our enemy even though Jesus is...

(thesuperjag;10514) Faithful1, we can still love everyone especially the enemies...But however, should the sons/daughters of darkness kill every single Jewish and Gentile Christians by laying down and do nothing and let the evil win? (sons/daughters of God) God forbid...as God is no...

(kriss;10503) I know we have argued this before and will most likely never see eye to on this. I even understand how you would think this but it is not true I wish it were. And in the millenium it will be true but in this world in the flesh God not only knows we will war he uses it to accomplish...

you can defend someone and not kill anyone. Exactly! Jesus wants us to be example of peace makers and not join to kill our enemy. We should not rely on chariots and horses; that's what the world do and Jesus' warriors should not kill anyone. Many, many Jesus' warriers(disciples) are getting...

(jamesrage;10491) Where do you get this idiotic notion that killing has to be associated with hatred.When a family puts their pet out of it's misery does that mean they hate the animal.Animal and human lives are totally different. Human being worth much, much more than animal. Don't you...

(woodruff;10456) jesus is the only one that lived a Godly private/public life perfectly and beyond judgement. overall, i dont understand your post..... Of course none of us can live perfect godly life but Jesus says with God's help anything is possible. I believe Jesus is saying that if we do...