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denver what is it you have against eternal torture for the rejectors of jesus=it is their choice not yours. the mammon doctrine of "annihilation" i guess appeals to the liberal persuasion. jesus himself referred hell as hell fire=it is not going to be a pleasant place. i am tired of doing...

but revelation 20 :10 cannot be taken anyway but literally=and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever=that is undisputable!

i have enjoyed the debate, god bless-i must get some shut eye=hosanna

revelation 22 :14 blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.*15 for without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. * who is...

you may also allude to the new testament=that is the good news. i think(andi am not trying to be mean) you may take it as a compliment. my reading of the scriptures is from a conservative frame of mind, and yours is liberal. what do you think? and those folks outside the gate in the book of...

i need to go to bed but if we are to believe that jesus is the son of god, and i do> if we are to believe that jesus is the only way to the father, and i do. if you do not believe in jesus where else would you go?am i missing something here? ahhhhh..............?i believe gehenna was where the...

if you do not believe in an eternal hell, may i ask if you are a mormon?that just does not make any sense to me=my bible annotations are from liberty university and they believe the second death is eternal punishment in the lake of fire=as i have from the womb!so then in essence you are saying...

the bible says if you do not believe in jesus as your lord andsavior you will burn in hell for ever. mathew 10:28=and fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear him which is able to destroy both the soul and body in hell.* 33=but whosoever shall deny me...

what did jesus say about hell=it is eternal , and it is hell fire. look at the scriptures=you that do not believe in hell=mathew 5:22=thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. luke 10:15=and thou, capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell. i do not worship Jesus...

ok, i know he was kicked out of heaven(satan). but according to the book of job he was given an audience with the lord.and in the garden there was the tree of knowledge of good and evil=so evil existed then, after satan lost his residency in heaven.

kriss , where is that in scripture please?

yea, he was kicked out of heaven as in revelation. but the devil does even still visit god in heaven=aka=the book of job=but after jesus' second return, he will be cast into the lake of hell forever and no more sin=is the way i understand it. waca i am using the edit button =thanks=job 1:6=now...

jerry do not worry about wacca he is extra OC about some rediculous protocal. but jerry here is some good scripture from the book of job=job 13:15=though he slay me, yet will i trust in him: but i will maintain mine own ways befor him.*What is extra OC ridiculous protocal?

wacca, you have a lot of insight for a 16 year old, i have to hand it to you=if i am reading your profile correctly. jerry=read the book of Job please. the question it posses is WHY DO I WORSHIP GOD? do i worship god because i want a blessing. that if i worship jesus i will be kept safe=i...

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the scripture about being born of the water=is described in my study bible as the first natural birth of the womb=second birth of the spirit is our new life in christ=however=the outward sign of the water batism is an important part of the christian lifestyle

i messed up=i meant to say =please do not tell me my salvation is based on baptism=it is based on jesus' grace=and my faith in his deed on the cross and his resurection=i believe that jesus is god and his death on the cross has the power to save me from eternal damnation=sorry for a double post

nothing can save a person but their trust in jesus. "for by grace are ye saved through faith and that not or yourselves; it is the gift of god=so please do not even attempt to tell me that my salvation is based on faith. " not of works, lest any man boast.

faithful if that is broken , mine is broked=hosanna

i like quad anythings=hosanna, hosanna, hosanna =hosanna