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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    Hello Anastacia, Please, anytime I say something that seems out of place or in error, let me know. This is one of the ways the body is edified, and no-one, I believe, is above error. Concerning the term "the Lord's day," I am in full agreement concerning Sunday not being a "special day," and...
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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    Hello Xander, I will break this up to make it easier to repond to, if you so choose. I am not saying it, scripture is. The main purpose of examining the thrones was to show that, whether you want to see this as pre, mid, or post tribulation, we see souls under the alatar in heaven, which...
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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    Will you not comment on what is presented here? You asked me why I was here, and I told you. You do not see that this doctrine is a balm to the wicked? I am glad that you deny the doctrine of annihilation. You are one of the few (if not the only) that embrace soul sleep and not annihilation...
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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    As do I. Explain how it is that they are reigning in heaven...before the beginning of the tribulation? That the heavens are distinguished from the earth is a basic concept taught by scripture: Genesis 1 1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. I know you did not. My...
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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    The message of the gospel, nothing more. And the message that man goes into a consciousless grave when they die is a message that I see as clearly denied by scripture. These are the doctrines I love to debate. Indeed. But what do you do with Paul's message? 2 Corinthians 5 1For we know...
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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    Oddly enough, I am on a city computer right now, and have about 2 minutes...so, here goes. We still have to consider that the two witnesses are alive, die, and then go to heaven. The GWT takes place after the Millennial reign, so we see first the two witnesses going to heaven before His...
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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    Again, I can appreciate your view, but again, I must disagree. As far as the three heavens, to make the first heaven the "earth," is easily cleared up. Genesis 1 (KJV) 14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for...
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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    Two things in this post I found to be interesting, and quickly, as I do not have a lot of time, I will re-address them so as to try to follow a thought process to a conclusion, rather than leave it hanging. The first is this challenge, which, I don't think I will prove it to the poster, because...
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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    Sorry, Xander, I missed this. I was in a hurry earlier. 1 Peter 3:19-20 (King James Version) 19By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a...
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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    I will agree with you that this particular post does not address specifically the OP with scripture, however, the preceding posts do. You see sound doctrine, I see doctrine that strengthens (and very poorly) ones position, but in no way, and I will say it again, shows that people do not go to...
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    Once Saved Always Saved (Osas) Is It Supported By God's Holy Word? Pt. 1

    Agreed, which is why Jesus expounded in ALL of the scriptures the things concerning Him. We have a clearer understanding of Christ than the Old Testament prophets did. Your point? Not even the disciples, though specifically told by Christ that He would die for them, understood this truth...
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    Once Saved Always Saved (Osas) Is It Supported By God's Holy Word? Pt. 1

    No what? The attempt to make the gospel message the entirety of the word of God in order to bring people into bondage to the law again will just not stand up to scripture. The gospel message to be obeyed by man today specifically deals with Christ dying for the sins of the world. While...
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    Is The Tribulation Period Lasting For 7 Years A False Doctrine! Part 1

    Then shall we also conclude that only those in Judea will be led of God as well? GTY
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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    The point is simple: the OP confuses glorification with life after death. Jesus is the Firstborn from the dead, the only One who has received a glorified body. That in no way substantiates that anyone's "granny is not in heaven yet." Nice terminology, by the way. The facetious manner in...
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    Is The Tribulation Period Lasting For 7 Years A False Doctrine! Part 1

    No need to worry...I am kept by the power of God. He will lead me into all truth, and, should I be around at the time of the tribulation, I doubt very much I would make it through that time. But this I know, He would lead me through that time also. But, we can discuss it in the other thread...
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    Once Saved Always Saved (Osas) Is It Supported By God's Holy Word? Pt. 1

    James shows our walk before men, whereas Paul shows our walk before God. Two entirely different issues. If you would read James again, keeping this in mind, it will be painfully clear that James speaks of temporal living, i.e., holding your tongue. Lets look at the scripture you present...
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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    You miss the point. Job knew nothing of the bodily resurrection of those who would be glorified while still living. The point is that the New Testament expands the teaching of resurrection. It cannot be denied. GTY
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    Is The Tribulation Period Lasting For 7 Years A False Doctrine! Part 1

    You do understand that the seventy years are to be distiguished from the seventy weeks, don't you? GTY
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    Jesus Christ Is The Only “…first Born From The Dead.”

    So the spirits in prison are "breath?" This scripture alone brings clarity that a spirit is a sentient entity...not a "life-force." Then there is no mystery found in the New Testament. Paul was mistaken. Couldn't have said it better myself. Now, contrast that with the teaching of the New...
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    Once Saved Always Saved (Osas) Is It Supported By God's Holy Word? Pt. 1

    Endurance, or, perseverence is an indication of saving faith, whereas departing from the faith is an indication of an easy-believism salvation, brought about by a limited understanding of the gospel and a reliance upon syllogistic faith. I agree, those who by the internal witness of the Holy...