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  1. VCO

    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    No, I do not think you know what you are talking about. I am an evangelical style of Christian. Dr. John MacArthur, Dr. Ed Young, Dr. Charles Stanley, and Dr. Chuck Swindoll, were my main disciples during my Spiritual Youth years. Yes, so many times, and I sometimes will just refer you to the...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    I didn't say you were the one, but it was perfect time to voice my opinion.
  3. VCO

    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Man, I had to tone that down a bit. Let's see if that "Soul Sleep" bucket can hold Water. Revelation 7:13-17 (NRSV) 13 Then one of the elders addressed me, saying, "Who are these, robed in white, and where have they come from?" 14 I said to him, "Sir, you are the one that knows." Then he said...
  4. VCO

    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    I caught that Typo just before I read your Post.
  5. VCO

    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    Believe what you want to believe, I don't have time to waste on this foolishness. Bye.
  6. VCO

    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Now That says a Lot for those few who believe in soul sleep. Now if we could apply that to: "the 144,000:, if we could apply that to: "We have to KEEP ready for the Bridegroom to come and get us in the cloud", and a few other subjects. It would mean NO MORE HEATED DEBATES.
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    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    Not my HEAD, that KNOWING HIM comes from the deepest Meaning from My Heart. I KNOW, the Holy Spirit is in my HEART, That is Not Head Knowledge that is HEART KNOWLEDGE, and Jesus is In my HEART TOO, He guided me through the Prison Ministry. Actually, the Holy Spirit Gave me what to say in every...
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    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    Believe what you want to, but as for me, I WILL BELIEVE WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS PUT ON MY HEART, WHICH IS TRUTH.
  9. VCO

    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    Rapture comes first, Rev. 4:1-4, now I want to show you all what MOST PEOPLE, especially those ZEALOUS to prove PRETRIB believes Wrong. You MISSED SOMETHING IMPORTANT. What happened to Christ after He arrived in Heaven ? ? ? HE SAT DOWN ON THE THRONE, Pretrib. Are we not supposed to follow...
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    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    Better Check your attitude towards the Jewish People. That's how Adolf Hitler got started. Only a small amount of Symbolism, you have inflated the rest, beyond what is REASONABLE.
  11. VCO

    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    Why do most people Go to great Lengths to try to explain the meaning of 144,000, WHEN it says it plain as DAY right in the Text.
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Do you know for sure, what the Bible says the other two heavens are ? ? ? The Bird fly through the First Heaven - Atmospheres. The Stars of the Second Heaven - Universe. The Eternal Dwelling Place of God and HIS Throne Room - Third Heaven.
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    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    IT IS LITERAL. Have you noticed that once your mind, slips off what is Literal, it slides deeper and deeper, into to the abyss of total fabrication. The best way of making sure that does not happen to you, is to find a really good Bible Teacher, such as Dr. John MacArthur. and Listen to every...
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    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    The will after the Rapture, AND the Two Witnesses of Revelation who demonstrate numerous miracles FROM GOD in front of them. The typical hocus pocus of the so-called TV evangelist, will NEVER FOOL THEM. Such as: "That's the Power of God He game me." And even I say, "No that is a Con-GAME."...
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    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    We all disserve NO MERCY, for our sins. And you are saying NO MERCY for the Jews. OH, MY. Hebrews 4:16 (NASB) 16 Therefore let us draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need. But you say, NO MERCY OR GRACE for the...
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    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    Spiritual Israel, YOU, added that Word. And that is a VERY dangerous practice. Revelation 22:18-19 (NASB) 18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes...
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    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    This is the Simplest portion of scripture to under stand, and it is beyond me, why some many try to read into this everything but what it actually says. Revelation 7:4-11 (ASV) 4 And I heard the number of them that were sealed, a hundred and forty and four thousand, sealed out of every tribe...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Now you said that like you think your works are going to save you, or add to your Salvation. I got news for you, IT WILL NOT COUNT one BIT FOR YOUR SALVATION. HERE IS WHEN WE WERE SAVED: 2 Timothy 1:9 (HCSB) 9 He has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    There is something to be Learned by studying Biblical History. I know, and I know, some say NOT. But let me prove it to You.
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    Are only 144,000 saved? (Rev 14:1)

    In my opinion, that is a new level of Wrong. Where did you here that? Never heard that before. Just so you KNOW. Who is Jesus talking to in the John 10:16? It is the Last of the Old Testament Assembly. Other Sheep is US, remember the Birthday of the New Testament Assembly is not until the...