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    Why Christians wont go through the tribulation

    Well in the scripture where it talks about that we are surounded by a great cloud of witness' that makes sense that this word would mean throng!But in the scripture that it says that we will be taken up in the clouds to be with our Lord, in the context of this scripture it makes absolutely no...
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    Could there have been one rapture already?

    Interesting point of veiw.Glad we can agree on a little something!Hee Hee!
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    Could there have been one rapture already?

    Hey guys I know that many people on this sight do not believe in a Rapture because it is not written in the bible.I do pose an interesting Question that I would like to see debated here!Mathew 27:50-53Vs.50Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.Vs.51And, behold...
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    Why Christians wont go through the tribulation

    (Wayne Murray;35363) Heb.12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, cloud = throng, a figure of speech used by Paul.I...
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    Why Christians wont go through the tribulation

    (Wayne Murray;35244) No such thing as a rapture. There are two tribulations, Satan's (instead of Christ) and Christ's (the true) at the seventh trump. If you want to learn what God's Word teaches, the truth, get a hold of me and I will document exactly what God's Word teachs. I do know what...
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    Why Christians wont go through the tribulation

    (Denver;35238) Jody, with all respect, no one is disputing that God will come, but the issue lies in the false intepretation of when he will come. I Thessalonians 4:16-17 I fail to see the secret rapture. I don't see a secret Rapture either. I think that the whole world will witness it!I really...
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    Why Christians wont go through the tribulation

    No, I don't believe that I'll recieve some kind of reward, other than a white robe and a crown that I get to lay at Jesus feet.I do trust that God will take care of me! I do not believe the rapture theory because I'm afraid of Tribulation. That is far from the truth. I love to be persecuted for...
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    Why Christians wont go through the tribulation

    Good luck Allen,I'm a Pre-Trib guy my self and I look forward to Jesus return any day now!But the leadership on this site is very bent on attacking what we believe very strongly and I've learn that they will come up with all kinds of things out of context of Scriptures to make their point and...
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    Gods "Call"

    Micky,When I got my calling to preach, I was on a millitary bus in Frankfurt Germany, waiting there actually guarding the bus because we where at the train station getting supplies. No one else was on the bus, but suddenly I just began pacing the isle just preaching to know one!When you get the...
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    What are your plans once the Tribulatin begins?

    Well Kriss,In Revelation, Yes I see very clearly about the symbolism.But when it comes to the scripture when Jesus is taking us into the Clouds I don't see it at all!It does not make any sense in the context of what is being said at the time!
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    What are your plans once the Tribulatin begins?

    (Ronnie seeks His face;34497) I may be wrong but I am only braceing myself against the rock in the storm of life. I know above all that I love Him, and that my very life will be asked of me....unless...He lifts me alive from an America ablaze in hydrogen and chemical warfare.It may even destroy...
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    What are your plans once the Tribulatin begins?

    (thesuperjag;34463) Jody, do you not know that when the bible says something... God's Word are full of symbolic.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world. Yes, when you guys can't get the scriptures to fit what you believe you start quoting simplism to make it fit.I'm sorry...
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    What are your plans once the Tribulatin begins?

    (whirlwind;30756) The word "air" as used in that scripture doesn't mean air as the atmosphere but rather means our spirits, our breath of life, our pnuma.Air #109 ~ aer, from aemi ( to breathe unconsciously, i.e. respire by anal. to blow) "air" (as naturally circumambient) _ air Comp...
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    he who is going to have to be taken out of the way

    You guys can stay here if you want, but when Jesus calls for me you can call me gone!I will not be decieved by any false christ!But if you guys really believe that we are currently in the Tribulation period. I guess we will see who's right or wrong in 7 years or less!Honestly I hope I'm right...
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    Need Prayer Guys

    Thanks Kriss!
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    Need Prayer Guys

    Thanks, Ronnie!
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    Need Prayer Guys

    Hey Guys,I need everyones help here!Last night, my wife's boss, whose husband is a Luthern Pastor.Lost there 21 year old son in a car accident. He was killed immediately!Please pray for the family during their time of grief!Also pray for they're church body that there faith will not be hindered...
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    Can your Spirit man sin?

    Very good point Denver!
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    The Anti Christ a Jew?

    Well it seems as though I've stirred up a hornets nest!This has been some good responses though. I do still believe that the Anti-Christ will be a man possessed with Satan's powers. How would Satan beable to come down in his angelic form without giving himself away of who he really is. Why would...