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    30,000 Denominations

    I don't really care how many denominations there are the point I'm making is finding a church with a message you like isn't faith its shopping. There could be a message we don't like but maybe it's a message we need to hear but if we bail because we don't like the message then something very...
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    30,000 Denominations

    It's not a made up number. It's what comes when people think they can decide what Scripture says. I have known a Christian family for almost 30 years now and I can't tell you how many times they have changed churches because they didn't agree with the pastors interpretations of Scripture.
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    I have my doubts that Catholicism is Christianity

    You can deny what Jesus said it's fine by me.
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    Is English your first language? I said Catholism is 2000+ years old. Remember that?
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    No one else can snatch them from His hand but people can and do walk away. Not the same thing. OSAS is a man made invention.
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    Cite the passages that show evidence of Sola scriptura and sola fide. No where does Scripture say it is the sole rule of faith. Scripture says the exact opposite of Sola fide. Cite the passages that shows evidence of OSAS. Scripture doesn't show it.
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    twenty five if it matters. What we know for sure is the solas are not anywhere near 2000 years old and neither is OSAS unless you can show otherwise
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    So you cant show that sola.scriptura existed before the 16th century. How about OSAS? Want to give that a shot?
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    I can show you evidence that the earliest church fathers held Catholic beliefs. Show me any evidence that anything you believe existed before the looney little monk. The church is far from perfect but that's not relevant to it's existence prior to the 15th century. You realize the looney little...
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    Incorrect. The succession of popes can be traced back to Peter. The earliest church fathers were Catholic in belief and teaching. Find a reference to the foolishness of OSAS and the buffoonery of sola scriptura and fide before the 1500s. Instead of attacking people maybe you should show evidence...
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    Yes jews that became Christians. Nothing you believe existed before the 16th century. The Catholic Church however 2,000+years and counting. Stop believing the heresies
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    With 20,000+ non Catholic Christian denominations, protestantism could hardly be called universal. Anything you believe has existed only since the 16th century. Go to any Catholic Church anywhere on a Sunday and the mass is the mass and has existed for over 2,000 years.
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    And? The facts remain the earliest Christians were Catholic. Don't get huffy with me about facts.
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    I just know. The fathers of the church were Catholic. That's not a opinion. If you read them it's clear.
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    Crying doesn't change facts
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    Yes it does matter. The early church fathers you're Catholic. Oops.
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    And? Jesus is God. Period. I get that but Jesus is God. John 8:28 Therefore Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I AM, that I do nothing on my own authority and I say nothing except what the Father has taught me." Who is I AM? John 14:9 Jesus answered...
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    I have no idea what you are talking about.
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    The Bible is Father-Centric not Christo-Centric

    Since Jesus is God this tomato versus tomahto.
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    I have my doubts that Catholicism is Christianity

    I answered your question. You didn't like my answer. Not the same. What I perceive has not changed but the substance of what I have eaten we changed. Now either God can do that or he can't? You are suggesting that because I still experience bread and wine it can't be the body and blood of...