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It's obvious, with all due respect, that your doctrine is carnal, physical. If one was to think spiritually, one would recognize that the heavenly kingdom of Christ was established during the Roman empire. It was Christ's crucifixion that ushered in mankind's retrieval from death and the grave...

Definitely of the anti-christ spirit.. You just said that there's no earth in heaven but still claim Satan was thrown out of the garden of Eden in heaven. Upon Christ's second coming, we wil be caught up in the air to meet him and will be carried into the barn which is New Jerusalem. The wicked...

You're missing two facts, there're two earths, the one we live on and the heavenly eath where the angels live. The verses I gave you early shows without a shadow of a doubt that the Eden the trees/fallen angels were thrown out of was the heavenly earth, where the Angels met with God, as in Job...

Ezekiel 31 proves the garden of Eden is in heaven. It speaks of the fall of the Assyrian in contrast to the Pharoah of Egypt as trees once in the garden of God, Eden. It speaks of these trees being cast down to earth or hell with men that go down into the pit. The "tree of life" is not on this...

I already answered your questions and proved when and where the kingdoms became Christ's. I can't make it any simpler than that.

Vet's There's no gap between the kingdoms the same way there's no gap in the image. Vet's The 5th kingdom last til the harvest of the world under deception. There's no gap between kingdoms, especially a 2,000yr old gap. That's ridiculous! Rome is the final beast that last to all...

Vet's Antiochus III scattered them by ending the Zadok/Aaron priestly lineage. Daniel parallels Revelation 10: Vet's That's interesting since I already explained that Antiochus "the Great" III scattered Israel by defiling the outer courtyard turning it into a gymnasium for hellenized...

Vet's That's your opinion. It has already happened in heaven. I can assume that you believe the disciples are stil in the grave awaiting the rapture? Vet's That is after the 1,000yr reign with Christ in his heavenly temple where the ark was seen. After the 1,000yrs, the heavenly Jerusalem and...

Vet's By denying the facts, I suppose. Vet's I understand all that. The key is who or what this vile person is. The Egyptians had a saying "as in the earth so it goes in heaven". They understood or knew that the attacks on the earthly Jerusalem would be repeated in the heavenlies. The 4/5...

Veteran's The kings of the north and south were Alexander the Great's generals, the Ptolemies and the Seleucids, two of the four horns that came up after Alexander the Great horn. The king that came in with flattery was Antiochus "the Great" III. Antiochus III ended the Zadok priestly line...

LIke I said before you're being carnal minded but I have a feeling that you're smarter than that. Jhn 18:36Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from...

Thanks for your opinion.

We're all entitled to our own opinions, thanks for yours.

The truth is an offence but not a sin.

Where did you start from, the top?

Two different breads, not connected.

I think I'm missing your point.

That's only your opinion. Christ said the bread is his flesh, it makes a world of difference. "Beware of the bread of the Pharisees."

If the process of bleaching flour is a modern invention, why is it that there's not even one church today that serves whole wheat communion bread? The process of bleaching flour is post Christ's time, so they must have ate whole wheat bread throughout the entire bible. Food for thought, Christ...

After reading this thread, here's my opinion. Cyrus died in 529bc, so 490yrs don't add up to 70ad. The temple was completed in 516bc, in the 6th yr of Darius (Ezra 6:15), and the wall by Nehemiah in the 20th yr of Queen Esther and Artaxerxes I (Neh 1:1, 6:15) in 44bc. The 490yr don't add up to...