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  1. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    Absolutely not....you are making that up. Read the Estate of Marriage.
  2. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    I did not say that Abraham's righteousness was because of polygamy and the scriptures do not say he was righteousness in spite of polygamy.
  3. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    The scriptures do not indicate the same logic applies to polygamy. At no point do the scriptures indicate that polygamy is wrong, sinful, or broken. Again making me repeat myself.....I consider polygamy, concubinage, and slavery as wrong from the beginning. God had a different opinion. But...
  4. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    At the time there was only one woman. The scriptures do not say and men can only have one wife and Mosaic Law which was created by the same God regulated polygamy and concubinage. And I might add that God took credit for David's wives.
  5. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    Not at the same time.
  6. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    Matthew 19:8 does not define polygamy as sinful. In fact no scripture associates polygamy with sin. Abraham was considered rightious and he had a wife and a concubine.
  7. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    Make me repeat myself. Genesis defines the process of how a man and a woman form a marrage without a wedding ceremony and when God creates the Mosaic Law He regulates polygamy and concubinage. And then Christ and the Apostles never say to stop polygamy and history proves they continued to...
  8. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    The Mosaic Laws were created by God and the Mosaic Laws regulated polygamy and concubinage. In Matthew chapter 19 Christ is talking to Jews about the Mosaic Laws and divorce and there is no telling how many wives those Jews had.
  9. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    Had a preacher tell me that the normal attraction that couples in love feel for each other is lust and so all marriages are formed by lust. That would be completely wrong. God described the process that is correct…. For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to...
  10. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    Fornication This is a prime example of why we should not make up words and stick them in the Bible, because they cause misunderstandings and false beliefs that can span over a thousand years. The word fornication or is not in the scriptures nor is its definition. It is a scam that is a...
  11. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    Yahweh defined marriage without a wedding ceremony in Genesis and then the Mosaic Law regulated polygamy and concubinage. And then the scriptures never ended the practice. Christians were allowed to practice polygamy and the Apostle Paul gave the one exception. Deacons could only have one wife...
  12. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and...
  13. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    I did not say that polygamy, concubinage and slavery are not going on in the world. I said Christianity eventually condemned it.
  14. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    That is not what I said. I said the scriptures did not put an end to them. Christianity eventually put an end to them. But as far as condemning them even Martin Luther said he could not condemn polygamy because the scriptures did not condemn polygamy. I said they were wrong for the start. From...
  15. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    Don’t get me wrong, considering women as property, polygamy, concubinage, and slavery was wrong from the start. And I do not like it that Christianity practiced these things. But religion and history and reality is not about what you like. Imposing what you like on the scriptures is no way to...
  16. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    This was in response to ....1 Peter 2:13,14
  17. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    Well Mister Ignorant, Like I said you can believe anything you want and disregard the scriptures and history. The first Christians were Jewish-Christians and the Law of Christ? Christ and the Apostles never said to stop polygamy, concubinage, or slavery.
  18. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    Unless you get specific what you are saying means nothing. Abortion and homosexual?
  19. Grailhunter

    Re: Sexually Immoral

    @Ritajanice @LuxMundi You guys can believe what you want but if you are interested in the truth here it is.... Fornication is not a biblical word and for the most part does not agree with the scriptures or reality. No where in the scriptures Old or New Testament is there a requirement for a...
  20. Grailhunter

    DAILY PRAYER

    Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?” John 11:25–26, NIV Dear Father in heaven, to you we entrust everything, for you have given us life and will...