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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The point was so that Jesus' disciples would not be deceived into interpreting them as signs of an imminent end (verse 6). Jesus realized the possibility of such deception so He cautioned against it.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Untrue. Matthew 24 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? Check the Greek. That end is a sunteleia end, not a telos end.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Because in Matthew 24, that's sunteleia. What adjoining verses in a single chapter does it go back and forth between? What global things? Everything in those verses can be explained locally historically.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Telos: Means "end," "conclusion," "purpose," or "goal." It can refer to the definitive termination of something or the final outcome. In the context of time, it can describe a specific moment in time when something ends. That is a pertinent explanation of why "telos" is applicable in this...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    There is a need to differentiate between the end of the age and the end of the OT economy. Hence "sunteleia" for the former and "telos" for the latter. There is no rationale for using "telos" for the latter if it is in fact "sunteleia". But it's not "sunteleia". The alternative is "telos"...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The Matthew 24:14 end is a "telos" end. The Matthew 28:19 end is a "sunteleia" end, the same as Matthew 24:3. Thus we again see the distinction between the two different types of ends. The Matthew 28:19 end does not apply to the Matthew 24:14 end.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Denial of the evangelization of "all nations" as described by Paul. When Paul says "all nations" in Romans 16:26, what do you think is his definition of "all nations"? If God could evangelize faraway Britain and India, do you think that maybe, just maybe, He could evangelize all nations even...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Thankfully, I don't share your doubt and denial.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Are you sure you want to claim that it wasn't? I have complete confidence and certainty that God's Empowerment of His Early Church was more than abundant to enable them to preach His Gospel to "all nations" before 60 AD, as defined and declared by Christ and Paul in Matthew 24:14 and Romans...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    FAMINES, PESTILENCES, EARTHQUAKES The Bible records that there was famine “throughout all the world. . . in the days of Claudius Caesar” (Acts 11:28). Judea was especially hard hit by famine. “The disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethern which...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    No offense intended, bro. Thought I'd inject a little humor. We're still almost clones. :laughing: So Paul is right whether he's talking about all literal nations, or whether he's talking about all nations of the known world. And he's confirming the associated prophecy of Jesus in Matthew...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    "Wars, rumors of wars, and commotions were of a general nature. These things were not signs of the end; to the contrary, they were given to show that the end was NOT yet. None of these things would be the sign which would cause the disciples to flee into the mountains." Isn't that what you're...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Disciple Thomas went to India in 52 AD and was slain there in 72 AD. What's wrong with the evidence of the Gospel reaching Britain that I provided?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    OK. Permit me to cite Bro. Woodrow below. Then back to "all nations". Since you apparently disagree with Paul's definition of "all nations", then is his definition wrong, or is your definition wrong? WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS We are told that when Jesus gave this prophecy, the Roman Empire...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Scripture and history record the numerous countries that the disciples, Paul, and other Christian missionaries visited and preached in during missionary journeys between Christ's first coming and Paul's epistles. Together they comprised all of the nations of the world to which Paul referred in...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    What kind of evidence do you need? I've cited the multiple sources. Undoubtedly there are more. For those which may be incorrect, there are others which are correct. Ultimately it's Paul whom you would need to prove incorrect.
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    So you think that historical Christian orthodoxy is Romanism. Talk about confused. :laughing:
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Still trying to dispel the disbelief that the Gospel was preached to all nations in Paul's era. There's no point continuing until we get past that. More evidence: Apostle Peter who, after visiting Milan, had "passed over to the island of Britain, now called England, (where) he spent many...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Here's the entirety of my previous post, which furnishes additional Scriptural evidence. Christ's and Paul's use of the identical expression and words "all nations" and their contexts leaves no reason to believe that the meaning and scope of "all nations" was any different between Christ's and...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Are they the same as this "ye"? Matthew 24 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.