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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    What about Luke 21:21 and Matthew 24:16? Do they involve the same events in the same era of time?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Whom to believe? 1. You 2. Luke Need a hint? :laughing:
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Yes, and He'll be coming again in the future to destroy Babylon. :laughing: Isaiah 13 1 The burden of Babylon, which Isaiah the son of Amoz did see. 10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The AOD was the Roman armies. Luke 21:20 Luke 21:20 was fulfilled in 70 AD.
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    They had the New Covenant, not the promise of the New Covenant. As we do too. "Promise" does not appear in Matthew 26:28. "Is" appears in Matthew 26:28. Heaven is my heritage. Sorry about you.
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Provide just one example from pre-1800 historical orthodox Christianity which concurs with that claim. Just one example. You also refuse to tell us if you partake of the Lord's Supper. Why?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I've shown how Matthew 24:15,16 were fulfilled. Which prophecy are you referring to?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    It would have been too late for the Christians to flee if they had waited until the Roman army occupied the Temple. Rather, they recognized Jesus' reference to the holy place to be city itself, specifically, its environs, as @grafted branch has shown. This gave the Christians sufficient...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Interesting confirmation; thanks.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Matthew 24:15. The abomination of desolation, i.e. Roman armies, would be seen by Jesus' disciples. It would be standing in the holy place, the holy city of Jerusalem. Both fulfilled.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The abomination of desolation was the Roman armies. Luke 21:20
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Did Jesus' disciples experience both His Salvation and His New Covenant? Did they have to wait for the Holy Land?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Tell the Judaean Christians that they are false preterist teachings. :laughing:
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    True, not when Jesus prophesied it. But fulfilled when the Judaean Christians fled.
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Christ called it His New Covenant. We can't celebrate it unless we've received it. Christ gave it to His disciples and they received it. He gives it to us and we receive it, when we accept Him and His Gift of Salvation. No waiting required.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Why would it not have been completely fulfilled?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    So you hate the Judaean Christians?
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    What people are you?
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    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    Jesus' disciples fulfilled their side when they received His New Covenant. Matthew 26:28 We do the same when we receive His New Covenant.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Matthew 24 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the...
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