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I started a new thread called "Natural Children and God's Children." It is about what you said about Israel. I encourage you to check it out. You may be pleasantly challenged to reconsider soem things. http://www.christianityboard.com/natural-c...50887#post50887

Here is chapter 13 of Dr. Michael L. Brown’s Our Hands Are Stained With Blood, The Tragic Story of the “Church” and the Jewish People. Destiny Image, 1992. I thought that this chapter was even more relevant to our discussion. Read it and tell me what you think please. I could not include the...

(lizz7711;50861) Have you ever read the book "End Time Delusions" by Steve Wohlberg? In it he asserts that basically Jesus is Israel, and Israel's "seed" is Jesus' followers, i.e. Jews and Gentiles that believe in Him...and if you follow that train of thought, then "all Israel" being saved...

Hands down, the guy from "Lost" who played Jesus in "The Gospel of John" was the best of all of them. My mom thought he was cute though, :naughty:. After that, Jim Caviezel in "The Passion."

(Just-the-facts;50855) Unless I missed it you forgot the most clear scripture in the Old Testament talking about the resurrectionDan 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never...

I found a pretty good link about this http://focusonjerusalem.com/embarkingupont...obstrouble.htmlThere is a very significant dimension to this whole thing that is not really touched in the article though. It is the relationship of the church to Israel both now and in the future tribulation...

I read your last post and I think you are asking a great q . I believe that you may consider the "time of Jacob's trouble" in Jer 30:6 is still future, because "all Israel" is not saved yet. The majority of Israel is still under the law's curse, as history bears witness to. The return of Jesus...

I also am convinced that the 70th week was fulfilled during Christ's ministry. But is an incredibly far leap to say that there is no future "tribulation" just because this one point most premillenialists lean on and emphasize is wrong. Having the 70th week in the past does not challenge...

Hello just-the-facts, I will give you just the facts. You sound so frustrated and impatient. That is just not any example of Jesus to someone. When you did that "you did what a Christian should never do." As if Jesus was so annoyed with his created children as you have been here. Think about...

I would say that your conclusions are completely off, :naughty: no offense.Ask yourself why God would give us a book filled with tons of info about the end of this age and the nature of and end of the next age for no reason at all except as an unnecesary "FYI" to all people who live and die...

I actually think that the new presidency will be decided only by whoever gets the most votes and electoral votes, no matter who it is. And I don't believe at all the the British are the "lost tribes." That in unorthodox teaching and can get people into trouble.