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God can do that without the Holy Spirit being involved. God can use Satan. Surely you can't say he has the Holy Spirit for God to use him. You are citing examples of people that did not have the Holy Spirit to make your case? I ask you, how come God did not pick a better Pope since there...

So are you against praying to Mary? Do you tell other Catholics to stop doing that or am I misunderstanding you here? You can't say that Mary cannot answer in that way when some Catholics testify to Mary speaking to people. And if Mary can speak to people, then by their reasoning, she can...

Saved believers can go astray for not being rooted in His words and thus not abiding in Him. Take the example for those in the holy laughter movement.. 1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits...

Thanks for sharing, sister. Those abiding in Him and His words trusting Him to be our Good Shepherd shall not fall away from the faith to such a phenomenon, but it can happen to believers that are not rooted in His words but love the spectacular to chase after seducing spirits and confusion...

Watched the video? Scripture did say this; 1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Having...

Hi sister. Do read the verses in post # 67 of this thread for proof that they are still His. It can happen to saved believers when they are not rooted in the word but given to chasing after phenomenon because they want to believe every spirit that falls on them is of God. Sometimes in these...

For the other readers as proof that those that have gone astray and are disorderly are still our brothers & sister.. 2 Thessalonians 3:1Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you: 2 And that we may be delivered from...

Also... Hebrews 11:1Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good report. Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit...

1 Corinthians 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to...

You are not rightly dividing the word of truth because Jesus was saying those words to defend His disciples. If you want to strain against what He is saying for why He is saying it by your application, then explain how His disciples are guiltless. And when you cannot fathom that, then ask Him...

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Scripture for how Jesus Christ is your Head as the Word of God. 2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. 14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15 And...

To be born again of the Spirit is when a believer is saved and that is accomplished by believing in Jesus Christ. Then Jesus is not the Savior? He can't save any one all by Himself? Jesus and water baptism are the saviors? Best discern what you're preaching. John 3:6 That which is born of...

What? Read that again. Acts 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If...

You skipped Paul. 1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power...

Even unclean spirit worshipped Him. Mark 5:2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, 3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: 4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters...

Matthew 2:0 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy. 11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense...

I do not fret over that, but I believe all those who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus...

How did Philip knew the Ethiopian eunuch had received the Holy Ghost? Who would the new believer speak in tongues to wen there is no unbeliever there? How did Peter & John knew the Samaritans had received the Holy Ghost? Not by speaking in tongues because they were all Samaritans for why it...

It would be tough for them to discern seducing spirits if they believe the Holy Spirit would also make believers do that. Signs of the times. They are still our brothers and sister for why we should pray for them. We can only agree to disagree with them and hope the Lord helps them to see the...