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UppsalaDragby, What it boils do to is that the SDA has another gospel, not the gospel of the Bible. Some there might be Christians but they are being fed a diet of confusion. As I pointed out to Phoneguy in post #399, they have taken the things of the Bible and perverted them: the ten...

In keeping with their contemptous attitude toward God and Christ, the SDA continues to exalt the false prophetess Ellen White and their man-made church business. This is all the while they should be exalting God and the grace He has given the world through His Son Yahoshua the Christ and His...

Keeth, It grieves me how thoroughly you proved my point. You have posted a muddled presentation of confusion. Zeke25

Keeth, You're so locked into this idea of Sunday vs Sabbath, that you are unable to even think about the subject, much less discuss it without muddling the issue. I don't care about what the world does with its Sundays laws. That's the world, not me. So, you can beat your strawman to death for...

Keeth, Herein lies a major flaw that you promote. What in the world does Sunday observance have to do with the Saturday/Sabbath? Nothing whatsoever. I equally contend with those who advocate a Sunday Sabbath every bit as much as I contend with those who advocate a Saturday Sabbath. Both...

DGenesis1:29, This is really for anyone who is looking in, not just for DGenesis. Apparently, he is a vegetarian because he is obeying what he perceives as the law. This is where these people will take you if you listen to their heresy. They will put you into bondage in ways that you can't...

brakelite, You ramble on and on as if you know what you are talking about. Exodus 16:23 did not occur 3 months prior to the giving of the Torah, it was three weeks. The seven day sabbath was not instituted during creation week. We've been here before. There is no Scriptural evidence of that...

Phoneguy, It is not I that condemns you. The Scriptures are your judge, not me. And you have failed to answer even one Scripture. What a coward. You insult, call into question others' salvation, lie, and expose yourself as biblically illiterate, then you cry like a stuck pig when a Scripture...

Phoneguy, The only one worshipping a false god here is you. The Torah is not a god. 2 Corinthians 3:7 KJV, “But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his...

Jun2u, Jun2u said: “God changed the Seventh Day Sabbath to the Sunday Sabbath and the scripture reference can be found in Mt 28:1.” zeke25 replies: The sabbath is the sabbath. There is no such animal as a Sunday sabbath. This is a figment of imagination in the minds of fallen men. It is not...

heretoeternity, What unmitigated condescension, "try reading". As if I haven't read them more times than your years on this planet. Point out a single Scripture in these chapters that prove your point and we'll discuss the individual Scripture. Your blanket approach proves nothing. Paul did not...

phoneguy, The Scriptures tell us that liars will go to hell. You are one of them. You should learn to fear God and repent of your lying.

heretoeternity, I am amazed at how many of you guys are running around in this forum like a chicken with its head cut off. All of you fancy yourselves to be mind readers and you haven't a clue. Besides, why is it that you can never address the Scriptures that I have referred you to? Instead...

heretoeternity, You are apparently confused. Tell me, for clarity's sake, do you recommend that we give heed to the teachings of Ellen G. White? Do you think would should follow the teachings of the Apostle Paul? And what is Roman Christianity supposed to be? It sounds like buzz words and...

heretoeternity, I refer you to this thread, page 3, post 81, part I, para 4 & 5, and part II, para 2 & 3. The 7th day sabbath was not instituted during Creation Week. heretoeternity said: "so anyone who wants to argue with God on this subject better do a reality check of their spirituality and...

Phoneguy, Let me get this straight. You constantly engage in personal attacks, rather than debate the doctrine. Yet you continue, in your sophomoric manner, to engage in personal slander and call me a coward. You refuse to have a two-way conversation. Yet I'm supposed to be the coward. You...

rstrats, Not only does the wording of Acts 10:30 bring us back to Sunday, but reading the story in Acts 10, we can count the days and it too leads us to Sunday. zeke25

Phoneguy, You're not listening. You've asked me another question without answering one for me yet. Remember, this is supposed to be a two-way conversation, you haven't got the hang of that yet. Answer my question and I'll answer one of yours. Furthermore, you can demonstrate all you want. But...

I'm glad to see that Martin Luther finally learned the truth. But that is not a private club. Jun2u, You missed post 81 on page 3. All of your answers are there. In fact, there is enough material there to destroy any pretense of any sabbath keeper here. None, absolutely none, have refuted even...

Upp, Nope. They cannot answer. On page 8 of this thread, post #226, phoneman admitted that he had no Scriptural support whatsoever for his fantasy doctrines. Yet he continues to preach his false message from some other source, because it certainly doesn't come from the Bible. I guess it makes...