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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Phoneman777, This is becoming a signature trait for you, quoting a Scripture that has nothing to do with what you say it does. Luke 17:10 does not talk about the law. And you are most certainly trying to justify yourself by the keeping of the law. You want to keep the sabbath and that is part...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Phoneman777, You are still avoiding a discussion of the Scriptures, without which you have no hope of discovering the truth. Galatians 5:4 describes your condition: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Zeke25
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Phoneman777, Let me get this straight. You are building your foundation of the mistaken premise that... (1) The sabbath was begun during creation week - with absolutely no mention of the sabbath until 2 ½ thousands years after creation week. (2) Rabbinic Judaism teaches that a day begins at...
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    Justin Martyr was a heretic

    JimParker, You can change and admit that John 6 teaches nothing, absolutely nothing, about communion. Or, you can continue to engage in personal attacks instead of engaging the topics at hand. If you continue with personal attacks that merely reveals that are out of intelligent things to say...
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    What is the New Covenant

    Hi Brakelite, brakelite said: Please read the above quote again, and carefully. Ask yourself this...what is it precisely that the scripture says is fading away? Another question could be, what precisely does the glory belong to? Is not the answer to both questions the ministry of death? Verse...
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    Mass Is Not the Topic in John 6th Chapter

    For those who missed this thread when it was being discussed a very short time ago.
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    Are the 10 Commandments the Law of Moses?

    Keeth, I'm glad you agree that the sabbath was only given to the Hebrews. Zeke25
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Phoneman, You bare false witness and reveal you are biblically illiterate. You refuse to debate the issues placed before you, instead you rant and rant about new things when you have no answer to the questions put before you. It's an old debate tactic that is futile. You keep raising new topics...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Phoneman777 said: the Sabbath goes all the way back to Creation week. a Biblical day starts at sunset (go back to Genesis 1 and read about creation week) and is when the Sabbath begins. Zeke25 reply: There was no sabbath in Creation Week. A biblical day begins at sunrise, that is exactly...
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    Justin Martyr was a heretic

    JimParker, Just because your understanding of the Scriptures is incomplete, does not mean that others don't know what they are talking about. It is a shame that you have been taught such horrible Bible doctrine that you actually believe (with your emotions, not your intellect) that John 6...
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    Justin Martyr was a heretic

    Oz said: So are you going to throw out all contemporary teachers in the Christian church? I'm thinking of people like Marcus Loane, Peter Jensen, Leon Morris, John Stott, F F Bruce, N T Wright, Richard Bauckham, R C Sproul, John MacArthur, Albert Mohler, D A Carson, Wayne Grudem, Roger Olson...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    I. In your 1st numbered para you said Ge 4:30, I believe you meant Ex 4:30; the same as your next quote of Ge 5:5, you must have meant Ex 5:5. Surely, you must be aware that the Hebrew word shabath has a multitude of meanings regarding resting, but it is not the word used for the Sabbath which...
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    What is the New Covenant

    brakelite & dono, I apologize for my moment of folly in ridiculing brakelite. It was not the right thing for me to do. However, I will be back with a more serious response. Zeke25
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Phoneman777, There is nothing in the verses you gave (Exodus 4:29 - 5:5) that speaks to the sabbath at all. Also, you have provided no Scriptures to support your statement that the sabbath was observed throughout the OT, much less the NT. You have not addressed Nehemiah 9:14 at all, which...
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    Justin Martyr was a heretic

    Oz, Thank you for sharing. But your information comes from the same source - Justin. But let us suppose that this information is accurate. It really is of little significance. I would not teach from the Book of Enoch nor from the Apocrypha nor from the Lost Books of the Bible. Therefore, the...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Phoneman777, You have conveniently ignored post #172 which I directed to you. Why is this? It is because you have no defense against the Scriptures that teach against that which you propose. Take, for example, in my para 1 Nehemiah 9:14 (which has been pointed out to you before), how can you...
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    Justin Martyr was a heretic

    rockytopva, You missed ecumenical. I'm sure you are very happy. Try not to study the Scriptures too much, it will dampen your euphoria. Zeke25
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    Justin Martyr was a heretic

    Though Justin Martyr did teach correct Christian doctrine in some areas, that does not justify the destructive heresies that he did teach. Compromise with these heretical teachings of Justin cannot be justified. Here are a few examples of Justin's heresies. More can be presented, but this makes...
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    Are the 10 Commandments the Law of Moses?

    TopherNelson, The Scriptures agree with that which I teach. Christ fulfilled the Law. In other words, He met all the requirements of the Law, for all time, everywhere, for all eternity. Therefore, no one has to meet those requirements ever again - it has been done for us by our Lord and Savior...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Phoneman777, It would help if you would read post #81 in this thread. In this case Part III. It will explain who the Sabbath was given to. Since you apparently will not go to post #81, I have brought Part III to you here. Sabbath Keeping Part III - Who It Was Given To 1. The sons of Jacob...