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Starting with Joel 2:31 is a terrific place to start. “And I will give signs in the heavens and in the earth: blood, and fire, and columns of smoke. The sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the coming of the great and awesome day of YHWH. For it shall be, all who shall...

Hi Veteran, Follow the flow of the passage you are quoting. We're not appointed to wrath. We are appointed to obtain salvation. Jesus died so that whether we live or die, we live with Him - not apart from Him. But please understand, I have no preference in what I learn from the Bible. It's...

The times they were going through, its easy to understand how they thought the great tribulation was upon them. But that shows how they didn't truly understand the signs, and the prophecies, in their finer points. If they did, they would have realized that it was not yet. They had a rough...

[/b] Hi veteran, While I'm pretty sure we're at opposite sides of the spectrum on this rapture thing, to me, this is the centerpoint passage for your assertion, easily demonstrated, that the wrath we are saved from is not specifically the wrath of the end times leading to Christ's glorious...

I thought maybe I had remembered it wrong, but: Romans 8:29-30 LITV (29) because whom He foreknew, He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son, for Him to be the First-born among many brothers. (30) But whom He predestinated, these He also called; and whom He called, these...

I'm curious what sort of evidence there is of "millions of years old" fossils! You know fossils can form rather quickly, right? Like in a matter of years? Lots of evidence for that. And you know that you need just the right watery matrix to produce fossils, right? That is, an animal that...

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I've been thinking about this. For those he foreknew, he also predestinated, and those he predestinated, he also call, and those he called he also justified, and those he justified he also glorified. About every time I hear this passage preached, everything there has already happened, except...

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Hi JLB, Do you not wish to share your view, so I can know where you are coming from? Do you not wish to interact with my assertions? Without wanting to get hung up on a distraction, I have to say that Jesus was talking to Nicodemus about earthly and heavenly things, and His statement was...

Hi JLB, I take all of Scripture together, the more more specific elucidating the less specific. Sometimes, I think that occurs in the order you suggest, however, sometimes I think the words of the Apostles give a clearer teaching that that of Jesus. I think we need to look at it all together...

Here is a summary of citations I've been able to find from the pre-Nicene writers: Irenaeus (circa 180 ad, Vol. 1 pg 558) and Tertullian (c. 210, Vol. 3, pgs 231, 455, 462, 565, 575) specifically wrote of the rapture. None of these citations contain a definitive statement regarding the timing...

Not quite sure I want to jump into this fray . . . but . . . oh well . . . I think the catching up in I Thess. 4 will be at the beginning of the seventieth week, not quite in the mainstream pre-trib way, but pre-trib nonetheless. I will agree with many of you that a good number of "pre-trib...

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I would rather say that salvation is receiving God's reconciliation by faith in Jesus Christ, and as we receive Jesus as our rightful Master, God gives us re-birth, as His children. Having therefore a new nature, we act according to our nature, doing those things that agree with God's will and...

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Hi Jake, We may be talking different things. Do you think we can reach a state while in these bodies where we no longer commit sins of any kind? Love in Christ, Mark

HI Strat,, Perhaps when you said "to live is to sin" I understood it further than you intended it. But I would hope for the maturing believer that the better part of life would be to not sin, that we could say, "to live is to perform righteousness" more often than not. Love in Christ, Mark...

Grace + anything else is salvation by works. Period. Either its by grace, or its not. Love in Christ, Mark