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Ok...I see you working here...2 olive trees...2 candlesticks. Is it 1 olive tree and 1 candlestick referenced in each testament you are pointing out? looks like it...I can work with this...can you tell me what you see the the olive tree and candlestick symbolizing? Thank you Redd...:)

Interesting...I had a similar thought rebuilder 454...can you explain SMH? Redd...:)

Part 2 The Four living Creatures…continued Revelation 6:4… Before the throne there was a sea of glass, like crystal. And in the midst of the throne, and around the throne… (Revelation 4:6a NKJV). “In the midst of the throne,” meaning…among and surrounding the throne…in the midst of circles...

Fantastic question! My response to you is this...these *do not* look like anything other than the image of God...they *are* the sons of God...as presented in visions of heaven (Ezekiel) and in heaven. (Revelation) Very well put Timtofly...very well put. This seems to open up to an opportunity...

I agree whole heartedly Randy...it is very very seldom that I see the reference "naos" the actual presence of the living God in relationship to the Four Living Creatures. The "naos of God" is the place in His temple where He Himself dwells in Spirit...and I agree that it is the actual presence...

Greetings Davy... What I was referring to as "truth being distorted" was the fruit of the type of banter, bickering and what looks like "brother attacking brother" that was taking place on this forum. I read the whole thing before I got involved...what you quoted from me was a simple brotherly...

Greetings Freedm...nice to "meet" you. You are right...yet I have found that it is not uncommon to encounter this dispensational thinking with those who claim to profess "Replacement Theology" much has been written about it...it may be more common than is realized...perhaps? Redd...:)

I am not surprised that you questioned these Randy…and I am glad you did. As we go through the “Four Living Creatures” the context of the “corporate man” will get kicked up a few times. I will however attempt to give you a basic look at what I believe the Lord is revealing to me…here now…to...

Agreed...elitism as you put it is really spiritual immaturity dressed in carnality...it will show the absence of humility eventually. I am similar...if something does not register in my spirit...my discernment will either direct me to pursue it for revelation or to disregard it as false. As...

Hi Ronald… I think it is a case of semantics here for you and I. As I see it…I “study” the scripture that I may “understand” what is being presented…that is a form of interpretation. Additionally, from Genesis on God has used “types, shadows, colors, numbers, symbols and the like…to convey the...

Continuing on... So, with the promises God made to Abraham having been fulfilled…”a great nation”…speaking specifically about natural ethnic Israel… “And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; And I will bless those who...

First maybe we should work from a simple defined understanding of “Replacement Theology” even a basic understanding would help. It seemed to me that there was some very good godly input in this forum that was overshadowed by the inability of some to learn how to “discuss” the scripture and come...

Greetings Ronald... The word or name "Cherubim" may have different scriptural meanings...however in reference to the "Four Living Creatures" from Ezekiel...in...10:9 Ezekiel seems to refer to all "4" of the living creatures as "the cherubim." Then in 10:14 Ezekiel lists the 4 living creatures...

Part 1 beginning the dive…The Four Living Creatures. Moving from a look at the need and the importance of the prophetic scriptures, we are going to dive into Revelations chapters 4-6 as a start. A good place to start is with the voice in the midst of the four living creatures. Here we can begin...

Greetings Randy…and your welcome Now, before I get to the “Four Living Creatures” where we can start with their “location”…I would just like to put the final touch on the “pre-dive” set up…thank you for your patience and may the revelation of He who was, is and is to come flow richly into your...

This is a great point Randy...I too use a white board constantly for "communication"...visuals are of great assistance to all. I have had some beautifully prepared displays and charts over the years that I have found are really not useful with the revelation of the Lord in our day...today. The...

Greetings Randy, Thank you for sharing a bit of your story with me my brother. There are many who simply do not receive the Holy Spirit and for them…spiritual revelation cannot happen. In that state there can be no spiritual understanding of the kingdom of God…yet they will debate you if you...

Thank you Randy…I hope you are ok with me throwing some things out here before we actually dig into the “Four Living Creatures” to establish some eternal, spiritual basis for the understanding of the prophetic…setting the stage for this “deep dive”…ok? I am sure that you have a premium value...

Greetings Randy, I am not really surprised that no one has responded to your offer to discuss the four living creatures...and I have watched and waited to see if anyone would. I have brought this up on forums over the last few years and either received nothing like you or that it does not...

The context of my post to Keraz was in the light of Paul’s writing in 1 Thessalonians 5…and Keraz pro-Israel perspective…and was aimed at the time of Paul’s writing. Perhaps you did not catch that. Western “Christians”…maybe…and their constituency is dwindling, however not necessarily the...