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    The church is prophetically unsound

    So many pre rapture, tithing, eternal burning in hell for ever and ever. I dont know of any church that has it all right. The church seems to have the salvation by faith down pretty good. This is the best its going to get, God will have to make all you rocks out there do the talking.Oceanman
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    New and Old Covenant?

    JMIs that a photo of you??? You seem like a smart guy. I am enjoying reading your replys.Oceanman
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    Solomon, 666, etc..,

    KrissYou crack me up. lol I was thinking the same thing.Mike Your very smart, but get some sleep and give your body a goooood rest. I will pray for you.Oceanman
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    War On The Saints

    Good point Nova there is power in the gospel. Power to keep away evil spiritsOceanman
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    Another President in Office?/rapture

    KrissI will have to think on this a little. It seems to me Paul is just saying He has not come yet, It does not appear to me that the gathering he mentions is a rapture. Where do you say we will meet Jesus when he returns?I hope not to be a pain. But This is very interesting. You have a great...
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    Another President in Office?/rapture

    KrissI dont need to read any thing about rapture. I have read every theory there is on rapture and I dont buy any of it. I believe only a 2nd coming meeting Jesus in the air clouds, being changed in an instant. Oceanman
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    Another President in Office?/rapture

    KrissI only believe in the seconed coming, and it seems in 1 thess4 16 Paul is real clear there about clouds. No confusion in his writing. Help me out hereOceanman
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    Another President in Office?/rapture

    Kriss Its seems to say in 1 thess we will meet in clouds. 2 thess2 says the day of Lord has not come, that day will not come until rebellion. i see this but I dont see not coming in the clouds. Help me out here.Cant he tranform our bodies into spirit bodies in an instant.Oceanman
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    Another President in Office?/rapture

    KrissI have never been a pre rap kind of guy, but I have always thought the one not left in field was taken up to meet Jesus when he comes at the 2nd coming. Could you show me why i am not getting the same interpitation.Oceanman
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    2nd Thess. /Rapture/Man of Sin

    I have found it sooo interesting that pastors will not even look at the scripture that proves we will be in tribulation when Jesus comes. They have no interest in changing their views or are afraid to. They learn pre trib in college and that it. Jim Bakker is the only *** of God pastor that has...
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    2nd Thess. /Rapture/Man of Sin

    KrissHow many churches do you know of that teaches post trib? there are so many churches preaching the gospel and teaching these pre-trib lies. They dont want to even listen to a debate. Blinded I guess. I think tithing is another false teaching.Steveoceanman
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    America Like Church of Laodicea?

    Hi Kriss,Very well said. The tithing thing going on in churches today blows me away, especially if you understand that tithing was for only the jews and does not even relate to the new test church. I enjoy reading your threads.Steveoceanman