Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. Harvest 1874

    A Wheel In The Middle Of A Wheel

    “Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces. The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the color of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the...
  2. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    "The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a sharing together of the blood of the Christ? The loaf which we break, is it not a sharing together of the Body of, Christ? Because one loaf, one body, we, the many are, for we all of the one loaf partake." (1 Cor 10:16, 17) The "bread" is...
  3. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    The New Covenant is an “EARTHLY covenant” pertaining to the “restitution of all things” the restoring or recovery of all that was lost in Adam. And what was it that was lost in Adam? Was it a spiritual reward, a promise of heavenly life? No! No such promises were made. Adam was created an...
  4. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    It has all the strength necessary to accomplish its goal, that is when it is put into operation following the completion of the Church, the death of the Testator.
  5. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    You asked: So you say the body of Christ (the Church) is not of the New Covenant but the Abrahamic Covenant...of which then of the flesh or of Isaac born after the Spirit? Is the body of Christ(the Church) of the bondwoman or the Free? This was addressed in Part 2 of our study, the Church is...
  6. Harvest 1874

    The Church under the Abrahamic Covenant, not the New Covenant, Part 4

    The same expression, "after those days," mentioned in Jeremiah’s prophecy (31:33), occurs in connection with Joel's prophecy of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Through him the Lord declares the ultimate pouring out of the Divine blessing, the Holy Spirit, upon all flesh; but he informs us...
  7. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    There is a difference between being complete in the Lord and the completion of the body of Christ, the Church.
  8. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    This is all covered in our blog post, "The Church under the Abrahamic Covenant not the New Covenant".
  9. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    They are not partakers (except only in so far as they share in the blood that seals the New Covenant) presently they are being prepared as ministers or administrators of that covenant (2 Cor 3:6). Understand this a mediator is only necessary between two parties who are at odds or in...
  10. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    Personally I fail to see how you arrived at this conclusion. We merely stated that the New Covenant with Israel has not yet been made applicable because the Church (the Testator) is not yet complete.
  11. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    My best advice my sister is to follow along with our current study entitled, "The Church under the Abrahamic Covenant not the New Covenant", many of your questions may be answered there. You might likewise take a look at "The Mediator and the New Covenant" for further insights. If you take the...
  12. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    To pick up your cross and follow in the Master’s footsteps implies a willingness to drink of the cup which he drank, the cup of his sufferings. Jesus death (blood) constitutes the blood that seals or makes effective the New Covenant. Our taking of this cup and drinking of it (Matt 26:27) shows...
  13. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    As we stated before the Testator has not yet died, the head has, but part of the body remains alive this side of the Vail (the feet of him) therefore the Testator is not yet complete and still lives. Have you as a prospective member of the body of Christ, of the Testator, made your calling and...
  14. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    It is evident then that you do not understand who precisely the Testator is. I would suggest a look at the following: “The Mediator and the New Covenant” Part 6 The "Testator"
  15. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    Being a partaker of the body of Christ, partaker of his sufferings does not imply partaking of the New Covenant.
  16. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    The "Testator" has not died! The testator is comprised of both the head (our Lord) and his body (the Church). The Church (this side of the Vail) has not yet completed its course (its share in the Sin Offering), therefore the Testator is still alive.
  17. Harvest 1874

    The Church under the Abrahamic Covenant, not the New Covenant, Part 3

    "AFTER THOSE DAYS I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT" In Jeremiah 31:33 we read, "After those days," as setting a date for the New Covenant. Why is this? And what "days" must precede the making of the New Covenant? God foretold that if Israel would be faithful he would bless them in every sense of...
  18. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    As stated in the article title, the Church is NOT under the New Covenant, but rather the Old (original) Abrahamic Covenant. The Church, that is those who make their calling and election sure who are joined to the body of Christ will make up the Great Mediator of the New Covenant, who will then...
  19. Harvest 1874

    HEBREWS 8 THE NEW COVENANT IS NOT FOR THE CHURCH ***

    We are in agreement with what is said for the most part and are presently presenting a study along similar lines on our blog post entitled, " The Church under the Abrahamic Covenant, Not the New Covenant".
  20. Harvest 1874

    The Church under the Abrahamic Covenant, not the New Covenant, Part 2

    “Hearken again to the Apostle’s discussion of the matter with the Galatians. He says, "This I say, that the [Abrahamic] Covenant, that was confirmed ("previously ratified"--Strong's Lexicon) before of God in Christ, the Law [Covenant], which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot...