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No. I think the first work of the Spirit was the confirmation of truth that He gives the person who first comes to Christ for forgiveness.

There are 'cradle believers' amongst them yes, but there are also what you call born again's there - many in fact and a lot coming out of Protestantism , in fact in their droves. I do not have extensive experience with them but see many who are true believers who perhaps agree with me...

I don't know. Although they (when I say they I do not know how many) may have some things wrong, it is still far better to join it if the Lord leads than the utterly apostate west where you will not hear about the need to be ES'ed which is number one. There is nothing in their service that is...

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Correct. It is all by faith and while we are yet sinners or in the initial stage of the process of sanctification which is to become complete in this life. Indeed it has a beginning and an end in this life which in the rebellion church denies. But you have contradicted yourself by saying IF we...

It is the opposite, and walking into any Protestant or Catholic Church today will do this. They are the ones teaching the wisdom of man, and it is the Orthodox Church that still holds the teaching of the doctrine of holiness, which has been called theosis since the beginning, and entire...

The Roman church broke away from the early church, by denying the Nicene Creed regarding the Filioque, and putting one man above all others when the early church according to the faith handed down from the saints, had a group of bishops to make decisions.

In the introduction to The Study of Holiness from the Early Church Fathers by J. B. Galloway(Wipf and Stock Publishers, 2014), we read: “If the teachings of the modern holiness movement are correct concerning the doctrine of holiness and the baptism with the Holy Ghost as an experience for the...

I was baptized in the Holy Spirit 35 years ago ie made holy, after coming to Christ 17 years earlier, but it took quite some time for the Lord to teach me as much as I know now, directly. After the baptism, He taught me solidly for three days, but as I said, I slowly gained spiritual...

My 50 years as a Protestant taught me that but I no longer believe it.

Jesus made it clear He was not talking about physical birth. That is a given.

I don't think it is natural birth. If we look at who Nicodemus was, Ruler, Teacher, Rabbi a member of the Sanhedrin the Jewish religious court, he was not only a Pharisee. He saw the miracles Jesus did. He clearly acknowledged Jesus was from God. Was his view like other Pharisees who...

Correct. Like the disciples, born again at Pentecost, the second blessing. The first was when Jesus called and they followed. We are not sold under sin without being bought first. We all or at least most of us, fall from that initial love for our Saviour.

Interpreting Romans 7. There have been two interpretations of Romans 7 which have dominated church history and which are sometimes known as the Primitive and the Post-Primitive. Augustine held to the Primitive in his early years, as did some of the Church Fathers and writers before Augustine...

Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart...

@Lizbeth Sister we seem to be speaking past each other. It is probably my fault, my concentration being affected by what is happening in my life at present. In the debate between 'religion' v spirituality, I am firmly on the spiritual side and understand that religion is a construct of man and...

@Lizbeth I do understand to a certain extent where you are coming from and indeed used to think that way especially all of the ornate clothing, but some old buildings have such potential to serve the communities and I think now that it is not so clear cut.

Ah no! It is the mind that tries to ease the truth and wiggle out of 'over strict' rules. Leniency is desired. See Adam and Eve! It is either death or life - very cut and dried! What happens at times of revival, is that people are cut down with repentance over things that did not bother them...

1 Peter 2:9, But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a HOLY nation, God's special POSSESSION, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.. Peter is speaking here of those who are HOLY, that God has full control over ie led by the...