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    When the saints are overcome

    The last enemy is death (1 Corinthians 15:26). Since people still physically die and you seem to be applying physical death to how the saints are being overcome, would you say that Christ is currently overcome by the physical death of His saints and will be overcome by physical death until that...
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    When the saints are overcome

    All people have to physically die, are you saying every believer will be overcome? If so then believers overcome while simultaneously they are overcome themselves. That doesn’t make logical sense to me.
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    When the saints are overcome

    Where in the Bible are believers considered to be overcome by a physical act? Romans 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
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    When the saints are overcome

    In Philippians 1:20 Paul says Christ shall be magnified in his body whether by life or death. Would you consider Paul as being overcome?
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    When the saints are overcome

    Ok, so why would those people who are saved in the tribulation think of their persecution and martyrdom as being overcome while believers currently don’t consider persecution and martyrdom as being overcome?
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    When the saints are overcome

    So are you saying the saints simply aren’t ever overcome or warn out? Meaning they are raptured and there are no saints on earth the overcome? If so, how can that be when it says the saints will be overcome? The Bible has to be true.
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    Revelation 13:10 - the earth beast

    Sorry, wrong thread.
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    When the saints are overcome

    Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. So how is the beast overcoming the saints? Before the cross they went to Sheol, so I can see how that could be considered as being...
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    Revelation 13:10 - the earth beast

    I know this thread isn’t about the sea beast but if an incorrect interpretation of the sea beast is made, then the earth beast is going to be that much more difficult to interpret. The sea beast has a very high probability of being the Daniel 7 little horn, in fact I don’t think I’ve ever heard...
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    Which Millennium is better? Amil's or Premil's proposed millennium?

    Pulpit Commentary Verse 16. - And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon; or, as in the Revised Version, they gathered; that is, the "spirits" of ver. 14, of which this is a continuation, the same verb συνάγω being repeated.
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    Revelation 11:1-3 - Can someone explain to me what these 3 verses are telling us?

    This may be of interest to you, I don’t know, but some time ago I had a discussion about the two witnesses and their ability to strike the earth with all the plagues as often as they will. An idea was brought up by someone that those on the earth will think the two witnesses are responsible for...
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    Revelation 11:1-3 - Can someone explain to me what these 3 verses are telling us?

    Personally I don’t see the papacy as the little horn so we are going to have differences for sure. Obviously John is on the island of Patmos so there is no temple, altar or worshipers to measure, physically speaking. In Revelation 11:1 John is told to rise and measure. Wherever that temple is...
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    Revelation 11:1-3 - Can someone explain to me what these 3 verses are telling us?

    Here is a list I have about the similarities of John the Baptist (JtB) and the two witnesses. Revelation 11 two witnesses. Matthew 11:14 JtB is called Elias but in John 1:21 JtB answers “no” when asked if he is Elias. In some kind of way JtB is a single person that represents 2 people...
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    Revelation 11:1-3 - Can someone explain to me what these 3 verses are telling us?

    I think the holy city in Revelation 11:2 is the earthly Jerusalem that got destroyed in 70AD, with Revelation being written prior to 70AD. One of the biggest disagreements with this is that the earthly Jerusalem would be called “holy” after the cross. What are the alternatives though, in...
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    Revelation 11:1-3 - Can someone explain to me what these 3 verses are telling us?

    I think the most debatable part of those verses is going to be the holy city trodden under foot for 42 months, and when that takes place. Many people put the holy city being trodden under by the Gentiles for 42 months within the Luke 21:24 Jerusalem being trodden down by the Gentiles till the...
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    Revelation 10:4 - Do not write what you have heard...

    I haven’t found anything that would point to what the seven thunders uttered. It is interesting to note that in Revelation 22:10 it says seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book. I would say that whatever the thunders said, it wouldn’t be considered “sayings of the prophecy”. It could...
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    Revelation 10:4 - Do not write what you have heard...

    Here’s some notes I have on the seven thunders … In Revelation 10:1-2 the mighty angel is on earth when he cries out with the loud voice because he comes down from heaven and has one foot on the sea and the other on earth. After this angel cries, the seven thunders utter their voices. It would...
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    Revelation 9:1 - 11 Who are these locusts representing?

    Thanks for the update on what you’re thinking is on this. You’ve brought up on several posts the point that it’s critical to understand Daniel, and in particular the approach that’s used to interpret Daniel before Revelation can be understood. No doubt Daniel needs to be understood but in...
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    Revelation 9:1 - 11 Who are these locusts representing?

    I think the connection you’re looking for on the 5 months is found in Genesis 7:24. Genesis 7:24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days. 150 days = five 30 day months. Personally I don’t think there is a connection between the flood and the locusts but if I remember...