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  1. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    My rebuttal to DJT on the other thread. https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/spiritual-gifts-unconfusing-them-part-2.54567/
  2. Hillsage

    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    It was obviously not a "moot point" to the translators of the KJV. And it obviously isn't a "moot point" to me from my studies. So why don't you just explain to me why they didn't think it moot? And just 'saying' "spirit/ghost" are the same is just a pretty lacking rebuttal IMO. That opinion...
  3. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    I disagree, and just addressed why, in your other 'THREAD'. So you may just want to read that OPINION of mine there. :) https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/spiritual-gifts-unconfusing-them-part-2.54567/#post-1558672
  4. Hillsage

    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    You are very correct. Having noted your correct comment, please unpack the very first "lack of understanding".....which I'm questioning in your above sentence. That "understanding" being, why did you say; "the Holy Ghost (Spirit)" up above? Only the KJV says "the Holy Ghost". And it does so...
  5. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    If I may elaborate; the word for "gift" in Acts 2 is not "charisma"....it is "dorea" (a gratuity). The word "gift" in 1 Cor is actually not even in verse 1, it was added by the false pen of fundamentalist scribes. But, we prayer tongue CRAZIMATICS can't really blame them for interpreting what...
  6. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    What you SEE that makes you think I'm trying to "control" with my last post, is simply not true IMO. My opinions are not made on the fly, they are calculated decisions. And IMO I controlled every one of our posting disagreements. But you are entitled to your OPINION above. I wasn't saying...
  7. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    'DID I MISS IT'? Are you serious? If you have to even ask the question then maybe we should just part ways. Because I rebuted your "VERIFIED IRREFUTABLE UNDENIABLE" OPINION hands down....IMO anyway. You adding all the 'all cap' adjectives you can think of to say you're right, come off as...
  8. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    Your opinion without scripture???? I disagree. HEB 2:17 Therefore he had to be made like his brethren in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make expiation for the sins of the people. So, when did YOU become a "brethren" to...
  9. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    AGREE with above comments...and, of course scriptures. But you never answered the most important question; what spirit or Spirit do you believe was in Jesus, when he was born? As for the Philip 2:5-11 I key on; 6 who, though he/Jesus was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a...
  10. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    Thanks DJT. I did know that, but quoted the KJV, which I then put brackets around the [a] and italicized it. Of the 7 translations that I compare things to on my computer 5 translations left the "a" out. Only the KJV and ESV put the "a" in the verse. :innocent:
  11. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    OK, one more post and I'm done. I think. AGREED above. So, what spirit was in Jesus when he was born? I AGREE with first sentence, but I DISAGREE with the second one. Do you have any scripture concerning the soul as part of the 'image' of GOD who is spirit? I believe that SPIRIT SOUL...
  12. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    I'm talking about the spin 'below' that you didn't answer in the post. :IDK: IOW what part of you is "made in the image of God"....spirit, soul or body? Or do all three represent being a trinity like God was in the beginning when he was FATHER, WORD, HOLY SPIRIT? What's your spin? And, I'd...
  13. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    That, I already did know. But in the Shema have you noticed that it isn't GOD who is "one"? It is "the Lord IS ONE". So, in your opinion, am I "made in God's image", because I too am a 'three in one person'?.....I am a spirit, I have a soul, I live in a body? Or do you spin things differently?
  14. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    Maybe I'm just speaking for me, but I'm not so sure that I'm not speaking for Johann too. Personally, I'm not following what you are saying???? Elohim is mentioned 2250 times in the OT. Where do you get "3X" in verse 6:4? I only see 1X. Just like it is in verse 1,2,3,4,5.....Elohim is in...
  15. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    I quote the whole bible, whenever it applies. :innocent: Ever hear of the Shema? DEU 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: Not sure why your 'question' keeps you from answering my posts though. Monotheistic, isn't even a word in the bible. The church fought for 400 years over...
  16. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    What I see in Matt 3:16 and Mark 1:10 is that the Holy Spirit of God like a dove was "lighting UPON him" and not 'in him'. Can you show me a verse anywhere saying the 'Holy Spirit' of God was IN Jesus? Scriptures pertaining to Jesus and confirming where the Holy Spirit of God was regarding...
  17. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    JOHANN I don't know why it sometimes doesn't put your name in the quote box below. You probably won't receive email reminders either, when it does this. I have a question for you; You are obviously reading the KJV. I know that because the h is not an H in Eph 4:30. The first time I noticed...
  18. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    No, that's not what I'm saying. Jesus was born sinless and never had a sin to confess. REPENTANCE doesn't mean I'm sorry for sin. It means you've had a change of thinking: 3340 metanoeo: to think differently or afterwards, i.e. reconsider (mor. feel compunction) For us, our change of...
  19. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    No, that's not what I'm saying. Jesus was born sinless and never had a sin to confess. REPENTANCE doesn't mean I'm sorry for sin. It means you've had a change of thinking: 3340 metanoeo: to think differently or afterwards, i.e. reconsider (mor. feel compunction) For us, our change of...
  20. Hillsage

    Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? (2)

    Scripture says John's baptism was for "REPENTANCE" and for "THE FORGIVENESS OF SIN". Where do you get spirit out of that? John's baptism had nothing to do with receiving the Spirit of God OR the spirit of Christ (2 different spirits). So, do you believe that the sins of those John baptized...