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Unless the word "under" is being over-emphasized, as I thought I had suggested—not sure. I'd have to take some time to look into the ramifications of what you're saying here, though, which I'm willing to do as soon as I can find the time. :hearteyes: .

I just don't think it's a simple thing. The Jews that were uncircumcised in heart were condemned by the law and put themselves under the jurisdiction of it at the same time. Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. When Paul...

Sorry, I was looking for something that addressed why the "condemned by grace" thing would be necessary and I just didn't see it. It's probably just over my head. :hearteyes: .

This seems an awful lot like a slightly protracted re-assertion of your original claim, which I assume means that you're not entertaining any alternative possibility which is okay if that's your final position. :hearteyes: .

I'm talking about the evidence of your behavior—not what you believe and teach. If you're speaking of Mrs. White, she never formulated a single doctrine and she was never ordained to the Gospel ministry. I don't follow the teachings of anyone but Christ. And you're not a four-flusher. .

I know plenty of Seventh-day Adventists that don't qualify as "wonderful guys." A jerk is a jerk regardless of his creed. I've encountered hundreds of lovely people who hold the same basic beliefs as you. What they don't do is evade, mock, double-down when they have no other counterpoint, and...

I don't feel that way so I wouldn't know anything about it. THE SABBATH—SIGN OF SALVATION. "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that...

The Lamb of God was "slain from the foundation of the world" (Revelation 13:8). God promised to put enmity between the serpent and the woman as early as Genesis 3:15. There is nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes 1:9). .

You left out the "Most of the people I like and/or love are not Seventh-day Adventists" part because it would highlight the lengths of dishonesty to which you are prepared to go to be mind-numbingly annoying. .

You're absolutely delusional. Most of the people I like and/or love are not Seventh-day Adventists. You may be a very nice guy in person, but I'm only familiar with the online forum version of who you are and it's just plain awful. I sincerely hope and pray that it's just an act. .

If I have to depend on you to advise me as to what I need, I've become hopeless. If you could correct in some way other than evasion, denial, doubling down, mocking emoticons, etc., or the dispensationalism you erroneously call "the New Covenant," we might have something serious to talk about. .

Never heard of it. But seriously, when I think of self-control, you... Never mind. .

I was afraid you might really like that. I may have to reconsider. .

I don't know how interested you are in health but I heard recently that if you are caffeine-free you can get as much alertness and energy benefits from watermelon or watermelon juice as you can from several cups of coffee without the wired feeling and the error potential. (They did a study once...

Thank you. My memory has always been bad, except for trivial, useless stuff. I had Attention Deficit Disorder before they had a name for it. It got me a lot of attention - lol. Heavy metals are bad stuff. They're finding more and more of them in fish, of all things. My main problem is that my...

It seems to me that you're using a rule of expression I don't necessarily see dictated here. I can't see any requirement that if we're not condemned by the law then we must therefore be condemned by grace. I certainly see the possibility of such expression, which is common enough but what if the...

It is important with friends to be always ready to correct them so they won't ever want to talk about religion. I know that's what I always look for in a friend. .

I just remembered he had to have his jaws wired shut but he figured out how to talk fairly well after a couple of days - lol. :hearteyes: .

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. You have a friend? That's pretty hard to imagine. Maybe in Jesus? .