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Ephesians 5:22-32 does give the impression that the Church is the bride but if we draw an absolute conclusion from that then it creates issues. For example, in verse 26 it is Christ that sanctifies and cleanses yet in Revelation 19:7 it is the bride that makes herself ready. In verse 27 Christ...

The bride is definitely New Jerusalem as seen in Revelation 21:2, but I think this is also the new covenant. Who do you think the land gets married to in Isaiah 62:4?

Daniel 7:26 says the saints take away his dominion to consume and destroy it unto the end, this takes place after the judgment sits. This is the same judgment that was set in Daniel 7:10. Daniel 7:11 I beheld till the beast was destroyed and given to the burning flame. The word “till” is...

I’m not the bride of Christ, nor do I believe it’s the Church. Do you think you are the bride for some reason?

The first three thrones were cast down, the fourth wasn’t cast down yet in 33AD.

Isaiah 62:4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married. The bride of Christ is the land. The physical land is consumed but...

Exactly, it’s false. That’s why we have place the Daniel 7:13 coming with the clouds just after the cross and not at some future time.

Look at Daniel 2:44 again … Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. If Jesus...

In Daniel 7:14 Jesus is given a kingdom, and His kingdom shall not be destroyed. This the kingdom given to the saints. The beast’s kingdom is consumed, put to an end. How can the saints be given the beast’s kingdom after it has been consumed?

What verse specifically says it’s the beast’s kingdom that is given to the saints? I see Daniel 7:22 where the saints posses the kingdom, but I view that as God’s kingdom not the beast’s kingdom. In Daniel 7:26 they take away and consume his dominion, which I associate with Daniel 2:44 where...

Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. There are several kingdoms, one’s...

Those under the altar are asking when their blood will be avenged, not every believer is martyred, so it stands to reason that not all believers ask when their blood will be avenged. It also doesn’t make sense to say that all martyred believers will be asking the Revelation 6:10 question of “how...

I think we both would agree that there are no believers who fight against Jerusalem in Zechariah 14:12, they are unbelievers. So in Zechariah 14:16 those who are left that came against Jerusalem would be unbelievers only, which would mean that the statements that follow are referring to...

Ok, thanks for sharing your view on this. I actually agree with many of the things you’ve mentioned but I apply them to first century events vs your view of them taking place in the future.

Well those verses don’t say they are in the city, only that they bow at the soles of the feet of the believers. If the LOF is under or somewhere outside of the New Jerusalem city then those verses would still be true. New Jerusalem comes down after Christ returns. Do you think people have come...

Interestingly enough, I can’t find the post, but recently the Amil crowd questioned me about things being hidden in the OT being revealed in the NT.

Since you tend to take all these things literally, maybe Zachariah 14:16 is talking about what happens after an unbeliever dies. The account of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16 has the rich man asking for his tongue to be cooled with a drop of water. In Zachariah 14:17 there is no rain unless...

So why do they ask a question that they already know the answer to at the fifth seal? Why would that make sense?

Ok, then the little season that the fifth seal martyrs have to wait for is definitely not a 2,000 year period, right? If so then the obvious problem is why would anyone now, be asking the Revelation 6:10 question of “how long”. Both you and I know the answer is to rest a little season, no need...

Would you agree that those under the altar at the fifth seal in Revelation 6:9-11 are asking how long till Jerusalem stops killing the prophets?