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  1. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Ummm, YOU'RE the one who challenged me and my Catholic beliefs if you want answers - then YOU need to start a new thread . . .
  2. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    I’ll explain it all to you -in a new thread - in storybook form, if needs be. However, I’m NOT going to allow you to further hijack this thread . . .
  3. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Nope. Start a new thread and I’ll explain it to you again – in more detail . . .
  4. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    WRONG. I didn’t “fail” to do anything. I explicitly discussed the first part about putting His Laws in the hearts of the people in an earlier post. This is referring to NOT being legalistic about His Laws – but how they should be a PART of us in everything we do, think or say. What’s wrong...
  5. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Huh?? Those verses describe exactly what I explained to you: The atoning Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. Noe - get back to the topic. If you want to attack Catholics - start another thread . . .
  6. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    WOW. What a skewed and perverse view of 2 Cor. 3:6-9 . . . Paul isn’t condemning the Commandments that were carved in stone is what kills. He is referring to the legalistic view of the Commandments and the rest of the Law – instead of following the spirit of the Law. Jesus made the SAME...
  7. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    The same as it is for ALL Christianity: The atoning Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. Now – if you don’t mind – I’d like to get back on topic . . .
  8. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    No so fast . . . Paul is referring to the Mosaic Law, which includes the dietary and ritual laws. Those are no longer binding because they were fulfilled by Christ (Col. 2:16-17). Remember what Jesus said in Matt 22: Matt. 22:37-39 Jesus replied: “’Love the Lord your God with all your heart...
  9. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    The Catholic Church teaches that we are saved by grace – NOT by works. The Catholic Church sees Jesus as not only a Savior to be believed in – but also a Lawgiver to be obeyed. Any ambiguous language from Trent was clarified in the Joint Declaration of Faith between Lutherans and Catholics...
  10. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    First of all – that’s NOT completely true. It’s faith and Baptism. So, BOTH the Church (Cat. 1987) and the Book (Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38) say this. Secondly - what is “Faith”? Is it simply believing – or does it include surrender and obedience? Can you be saved by simply believing? The Bible...
  11. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Soooo, is it that you can’t answer my questions. Were they too confusing? Ill list them again. Stopp running and answer the questions: - How did all of the Christians for the first 300 years of the Church learn about Christ? - Did they ALL have copies of the Bible? - How about ALL of the...
  12. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    You dodged my questions because you CAN’T answer them. They’re historically and logically factual – and that makes YOUR position illogical and untenable. Answer the questions . . . I don’t make ANY excuses. I read the Bible and recommend that for everyone. The danger of YOUR...
  13. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Complete dodge . . . How 'bout answering some of the questions I asked? Does it make you uncomfortable to defend your position?
  14. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    I couldn't agree more. This is a basic belief of Christianity. This statement is based on ignorance . . . How did all of the Christians for the first 300 years of the Church learn about Christ? Did they ALL have copies of the Bible? How about ALL of the Christians who died before John wrote...
  15. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    I sure did. All it did was dredge up the nonsensical arguments YOU’VE made over the years. Or have you forgotten that YOU and I have had this same debate for several years now?
  16. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    And then, YOU brought up the Sabbath – NOT me . . .
  17. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    FIRST of all – Jesus did guarantee that nobody would be snatched out of His hand. Those who voluntarily leave Him aren’t being “plucked out.” The crowd that walked away and returned to their former way of life in John 6:66 wee such people. Secondly, Christ’s Church didn’t become apostate and...
  18. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    WRONG. I don’t “change” my position. I’m against OSAS for everybody because it is unbiblical - and was never taught for the first 1500 years of Christianity. His/her diatribe was the usual SDA twisting Scripture and hodge podge of out-of-context quotes.
  19. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    NOWHERE in Scripture is there a “Sinner’s Prayer”. Yet, I hear from Protestants that one needs to recite this to be saved. As for confession and penance – Jesus gave His Apostles the power to forgive or retain sins in His name (John 20:21-23). Paul speaks of this “ministry of reconciliation”...
  20. BreadOfLife

    How many former Catholics are here?

    Ummm, I’m NOT the one who brought up this topic. It was your fellow SDA member, @Brakelite because it’s HIS favorite topic. However, after having condemned this topic for this thread – you went off on your own diatribe. Frankly, I'm NOT interested in debating this again. I’ve heard every...