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And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. [Joshua 10:13] Interestingly, the text does not say...

If they want hyper detailed photo of the close-ups, sure. Hundreds of consistent, unfiltered, pure photos of the entire thing in singular images over the span of several decades is expected when the claim is "Globe earth, and we can go to space and see the entire thing from space." And an...

In an informal way, it is an attack on the heliocentric model to reveal that it lacks evidence. I can say NASA lacks convincing photographic evidence of the globe earth model, and you can say I'm being logically fallacious. But I am not trying to disprove the globe earth model by appealing to...

Relative to reality as they claim it. 514,000mph. We can say that does not really mean anything as a speed, but if it is true, then it matters for something, as the truth matters. 514,000 mph is the claim. My point for bringing up the speed is to reveal the extremely large velocities we are...

The sun. Because the sun moves.

No. I don't know which model is correct. The heliocentric model seems ridiculous, and people who blindly believe in it should be embarrassed. But also ridiculous things exist. It seems the heliocentric model depends on many extremely 'convenient' things in order to make it work. 'convenient'...

Not necessarily. In order to give this subject fair consideration, you should consider the possible scales of the sun and earth. In order for the earth to be flat with day/night cycles, the sun would almost certainly have to be much smaller than what we are told. This could produce a spotlight...

It seems logical that you would see the bottom scenario on a flat earth, depending how high the moon is above the earth. Because the top descends to the center line (horizon), and the bottom raises to the center line. I think this is demonstrable. Look at a long stretch of flat road. According...

This is the kind of thing people could be doing to discredit the flat earth society. Of course it's fun and games, but why is it we seem to see too much earth too far?

Is there anything they might have been taking a picture of besides you or themselves? Maybe they think it's an interesting location?

Right, no sounds that I perceived. Two of the three instances were definitely very close encounters, close enough that you would hear sound if it was a helicopter or airplane for example. Yes, I have considered it to be spiritual. But I saw a physical craft slowly rising with circular-bound...

As far as personal testimony and gravity goes, I have seen saucer craft and unknown orbs in the sky on different occasions. I have witnessed both floating and zig-zagging. The zig-zagging had immediate and precise trajectory change with no slow-down, even going from forward to backward...

People building the rockets wouldn't even need to know.

Please, present some arguments occasionally that will be in the book, so that they can have a chance to be rebutted here, so the book can also address or at least highlight those rebuttals as well.

I do appreciate what you're saying. The only reason I'm only quoting this part is because of time purposes (at our first doctor appt. for wife's pregnancy - everything is going great!). Apparently, our world is not built on the assumption of being a globe. There are apparently (seem real to me...

What do you think of the Apollo moon landing? If you perceive that as being faked, does that count as evidence of conspiracy, that opens the door to a globe earth hoax? I mean if they faked the moon landing, does the flat earth theory seem more plausible to you?

They're not playing a game, they're asking fair questions and even doing a lot of the heavy lifting for you to keep the discussion coherent. This is what being reasonable looks like, and you're calling it a game. So what should they be doing instead to be reasonable?

It would certainly be a great scheme, an outstanding systematic plan. But great schemes do happen, or are at least already believed to happen in a major scale. Have you ever gone outside at night to look up at the moon, and considered just how wild it would have been for us to get on it? If we...

Hate to hear that. Hope you're doing better now. I wasn't teasing you for being absent, I was referring to when Button quoted you, and it said: @Adventageous said: And then it had nothing. Take it easy!

I was wondering when Dubay would appear in this thread sml