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  1. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    The anti-christ in Daniel is in 7:8 I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words.
  2. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    The OT , JESUS , John all point to many anti-christs that are led by The Anti-christ. The very first picture of many anti-christs occurred in Noah's Day when the fallen angels came to earth and interbred with female humans that created a bastardized offspring that GOD had to purge the earth...
  3. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    CORRECT FALSE 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 rebukes your error Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to Him, we ask you, brothers, not to be easily disconcerted or alarmed by any spirit or message or letter seeming to be from us, alleging that the Day...
  4. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    AMEN - i am with you on this statement JESUS also pointed to past generations being fulfilled in future a generation Example: Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30and say, ‘If we had lived in the...
  5. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Forgive me if i read your post wrong - but- i thought you said: "the DotL had already come" Do you believe that the DotL was in the past = 70AD ???
  6. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.
  7. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Thank you i am a little busy but will respond
  8. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Question: Did you not say in your post that the DotL "had already come"???
  9. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Here is Post #162 again Point out what part of this post goes against the Bible You'll be here = God promised and HE always keeps His Word And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. For it is My Father’s will...
  10. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Good Morning There are actually TWO Restrainers that pertain to Daniel, Matt ch24 , 2 Thessalonians and the "man of sin" #1 is the Holy Spirit who oversees the world = Genesis chapter 1 and more #2 is Michael, the Watcher of Israel = Michael is the Arch Angel that replaced Lucifer/Satan after...
  11. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    You left out truth = "as if" "as if the day had already come"
  12. David in NJ

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    The Restrainer is and always has been the Holy Spirit
  13. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yep, and some are BIGGER then others!!! Thank you for the 'LOL' of the day. SHALOM
  14. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Always keep this in your heart & mind = God's word is a Children's Book = written for His Children Notice how chapter 1 lays the foundation of Deliverance from His Wrath 1 Thess 1:10 - to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to...
  15. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Thank You Joe for the open and honest confession of faith in CHRIST as well as our weaknesses. i can attest to similar in my own life and the daily need of the Holy Spirit, Grace and His Mercy that i may have love for others
  16. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    #1 - The DotL is not the Great Tribulation - it is the Day of the Wrath of the LAMB and of God #2 - Amos 5:18 is addressed to those Jews who thought they are righteous before God and that the Judgment that is Coming is only upon their enemies. #3 - These same Jews are alive today as they fully...
  17. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    I heard a pastor on the radio say these words: "Pre-trib rapture will prevent us from taking the MoB for if we are still here then it is not the MoB and therefore it is safe to take it."
  18. David in NJ

    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    You'll be here = God promised and HE always keeps His Word And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. For it is My Father’s will that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and...