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  1. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Well, if he wasn't born again, the he couldn't have lost it. Only those born again of incorruptible seed have incorruptible seed. Exactly!
  2. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Yes, I am denying that it is an EXACT answer because it is not any kind of answer let alone an EXACT answer.
  3. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    What was the question?
  4. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    As I mentioned in some other post, the word "habitual" is not there. But, ignoring that fact, how many sins before it is classified as habitual? Do you ever worry you may have gone over the limit, or do you rest in your own righteousness? Or maybe just some nagging feeling that you are not...
  5. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    You'd have a point if it actually said habitual. Of course, it doesn't. I'd reject OSAS if 1 Peter 1:23 (just one example) wasn't in the scriptures. 1 Pet 1:23, Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. I trust...
  6. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    There is a lot there not in the original Greek. KJV is much closer to the Greek. Heb 10:26, For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, So, do you ever sin knowingly, or are all your sins accidental? In any case...
  7. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I think you are saying there is some particular sin Hebrews is talking about. What would that be? So Jesus didn't really finish the job? He just said he did (John 19:30)? Jesus isn't going to do any more. Hebrews is clear that he did what he did one time and one time only. So that begs the...
  8. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    It seems you might be going more by preconceived ideas instead of the context of Hebrews. It's never a good idea to build a doctrine on one or two verses. 1 John 1:10, If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. How do you see that fit in with Hebrews...
  9. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    No. All that is saying is that the author was speaking to Jewish Christians. Unlike Paul's letters, the OT is full of OT references to "the fathers." Clearly this opening verse informs us that the audience was Jews who were born again. However, they were in danger of falling back into the law...
  10. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    All that says is that Jesus dies once. The people in Hebrews were on the verge of falling by the wayside. They were in danger of going back to the law. God was simply telling them that there was no other sacrifice that could save them again, so stick with what they already have, i.e. the...
  11. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Perhaps I just don't understand all you say. It would clear it up if you told me what exactly one must do to lose salvation. Is there a particular sin that will do it, or is it a certain number of sins? If it is a certain number, what is that number?
  12. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I just edited that post, #2583. You may want to read it again.
  13. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    In your world, what is the end of someone who usurps the authority God granted Jesus, and Jesus alone, to decide who will be with Him for eternity and who will die the second death? Usurping the authority of Jesus is a pretty egregious offense. Wouldn't you agree that that is falling away as...
  14. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    You are reading something into the word "reprobate" that is simply not there. The Greek word for salvation is "soter." The Greek word for reprobate is "adokimos." God used 2 different words because they are 2 different things. Here is the actual meaning of "parable" according to Strong's...
  15. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I don't see that in the scriptures. I see God having one plan for Israel and another for the church of the body. I don't that the church is the true Israel. I know a few verses can be taken out of context to suggest such a thing, but the overall message of scripture does not support that...
  16. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Could you tell me exactly what I said that led you to the conclusion that I think that God and Paul lied? Exactly! What he is not saying is that he was afraid of loosing the incorruptible seed God created in him. It does not say he was afraid of loosing his salvation. It's a parable. A parable...
  17. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Those verses say nothing about loosing salvation. What they do say is that, "some will depart from the faith." Just leave it at that. Don't insert what is not there. The same pattern fits for all verses proffered as saying God's perfect creation, the new man of Eph 4:24 and Col 3:10 can be...
  18. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    My thoughts on Paul lying or not are beside the point. It has nothing to do with what 1 Cor 9:27 says. As you correctly translated the word "castaway," 1 Cor 9:27 clearly says that Paul did not want to become a "reprobate." What it does not say is that Paul was afraid of loosing the new man God...
  19. Rich R

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Including Paul? 1 Tim 1:15-16, This is a trustworthy - saying, - worthy of full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the worst. But for this very reason - I was shown mercy, so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display His perfect...
  20. Rich R

    The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:19-31)

    There are two sides to the issue: Gen 2:16-17, 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die...